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RE: Dealing with beliver friends on Facebook
July 14, 2012 at 2:17 pm
(July 14, 2012 at 1:49 pm)Napoleon Wrote: (July 14, 2012 at 1:20 pm)Polaris Wrote: Do you have some examples of your posts on Facebook?
Perhaps you are expressing your beliefs (or lack of beliefs) in a matter than may be more offensive to some than it needs to be.
I'm guessing it's reposts from r/atheism off of reddit. At least that is what is clogging up my news feed these days.
They all basically highlight the stupidity of religion, and if you're offended by that, then maybe you should be the one to examine why. Not the other way around.
There is a big difference between attacking the idea and attacking the person. As I stated in my post, more often than not, I see the person being attacked and not the idea itself.
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RE: Dealing with beliver friends on Facebook
July 14, 2012 at 3:10 pm
(July 14, 2012 at 2:17 pm)Polaris Wrote: (July 14, 2012 at 1:49 pm)Napoleon Wrote: I'm guessing it's reposts from r/atheism off of reddit. At least that is what is clogging up my news feed these days.
They all basically highlight the stupidity of religion, and if you're offended by that, then maybe you should be the one to examine why. Not the other way around.
There is a big difference between attacking the idea and attacking the person. As I stated in my post, more often than not, I see the person being attacked and not the idea itself.
I find that the way reality tends to be rejected so vehemently, the idea and the person start to become one and the same.
You really believe in a man who has helped to save the world twice, with the power to change his physical appearance? An alien who travels though time and space-- in a police box?!?
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RE: Dealing with beliver friends on Facebook
July 14, 2012 at 3:17 pm
(July 14, 2012 at 3:10 pm)KnockEmOuttt Wrote: (July 14, 2012 at 2:17 pm)Polaris Wrote: There is a big difference between attacking the idea and attacking the person. As I stated in my post, more often than not, I see the person being attacked and not the idea itself.
I find that the way reality tends to be rejected so vehemently, the idea and the person start to become one and the same.
Or could it be that people just like to be bullies and attacking the person gives them an undeserved sense of satisfaction?
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RE: Dealing with beliver friends on Facebook
July 14, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Could also be that people cannot separate their ideologies from their personal selves. I like to call it butthurtitis.
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RE: Dealing with beliver friends on Facebook
July 14, 2012 at 3:45 pm
(July 14, 2012 at 2:17 pm)Polaris Wrote: There is a big difference between attacking the idea and attacking the person. As I stated in my post, more often than not, I see the person being attacked and not the idea itself.
Yeah, and as I've said, most of the ones I get on my facebook are taken straight from reddit. None of them attack individual people, just stupid ideas. Which was part of my point.
There is also a big difference in taking the piss out of someone because their beliefs are stupid, and taking the piss out of someone because they are stupid.
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RE: Dealing with beliver friends on Facebook
July 14, 2012 at 3:57 pm
(July 14, 2012 at 3:45 pm)Napoleon Wrote: (July 14, 2012 at 2:17 pm)Polaris Wrote: There is a big difference between attacking the idea and attacking the person. As I stated in my post, more often than not, I see the person being attacked and not the idea itself.
Yeah, and as I've said, most of the ones I get on my facebook are taken straight from reddit. None of them attack individual people, just stupid ideas. Which was part of my point.
There is also a big difference in taking the piss out of someone because their beliefs are stupid, and taking the piss out of someone because they are stupid.
Well I see the main difference is my friends are rather political so maybe it is easier for them to attack the person or perhaps they just do so because of the pent-up frustration they have for the nature of the global economy, the unending conflicts, and the lack of freedom being shown throughout the world. I don't actually even know what reddit is to be honest because none of my friends use it....I did see a Shit People Say about it though.
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RE: Dealing with beliver friends on Facebook
July 14, 2012 at 10:27 pm
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(July 14, 2012 at 1:20 pm)Polaris Wrote: Do you have some examples of your posts on Facebook?
Perhaps you are expressing your beliefs (or lack of beliefs) in a matter than may be more offensive to some than it needs to be.
I have friends from both sides of the political spectrum (the closest example I experience to your situation) that post quite rude comments about people with different views than their own (I generally ignore them, which might be something you can tell your friends who are upset about what you post...maybe even, "if you don't like what you I post, you can de-friend me"....saw something like that in my News Feed after work one day) when they could easily post the same idea while still showing a degree of respect to their friends.
I re-post stuff from United Atheist Front, Global Secular Humanist Movement, Progressive Secular Humanist, Sexy Atheists, Godless Living and Hitch quotes I come across. On my last post before he emailed me I said something to the effect that there is no shame in not believing and that you are not alone if you don't believe.
I do have things to add when I post something like a news piece where a kid died because his Christian parents refused any treatment besides prayer. I posted about that snake handling preacher that died from a rattle snake bite and commented about nominating him for the Darwin Award.
I am not a bully type of person at all, from what he wrote about me I think that comes across quite well in my other posts.
I think part of the problem may be that for some people their faith is their identity perhaps. When someone points out the flaws in faith they feel personally attacked.
I don't believe I'm crossing a line that mocks them personally. Maybe they feel it is a personal attack when I post something that implies they are stupid for believing.
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RE: Dealing with beliver friends on Facebook
July 14, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Oh then nevermind. That's nothing like my friends into politics do. That's weak sauce (as in not that offensive) compared to what I see on Facebook everyday.
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RE: Dealing with beliver friends on Facebook
July 14, 2012 at 10:40 pm
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(July 14, 2012 at 1:26 pm)Annik Wrote: No one has the right to tell you to censor your own facebook. If they have a problem with you, they can choose to deal with it by hiding your posts.
I'm not sure if he was trying to tell me to knock it off or saying he was going to ignore me. I agree though, I feel everybody has the right to be themselves on FB if they aren't calling people names and bullying. The only time I have said anything about people's posts on FB was when somebody was degrading other people who post political and religious material. I was actually sticking up for people who post pro-religious items.
(July 14, 2012 at 10:27 pm)cheme Wrote: (July 14, 2012 at 1:20 pm)Polaris Wrote: Do you have some examples of your posts on Facebook?
Perhaps you are expressing your beliefs (or lack of beliefs) in a matter than may be more offensive to some than it needs to be.
I have friends from both sides of the political spectrum (the closest example I experience to your situation) that post quite rude comments about people with different views than their own (I generally ignore them, which might be something you can tell your friends who are upset about what you post...maybe even, "if you don't like what you I post, you can de-friend me"....saw something like that in my News Feed after work one day) when they could easily post the same idea while still showing a degree of respect to their friends.
I re-post stuff from United Atheist Front, Global Secular Humanist Movement, Progressive Secular Humanist, Sexy Atheists, Godless Living and Hitch quotes I come across. On my last post before he emailed me I said something to the effect that there is no shame in not believing and that you are not alone if you don't believe.
I do have things to add when I post something like a news piece where a kid died because his Christian parents refused any treatment besides prayer. I posted about that snake handling preacher that died from a rattle snake bite and commented about nominating him for the Darwin Award.
I am not a bully type of person at all, from what he wrote about me I think that comes across quite well in my other posts.
I think part of the problem may be that for some people their faith is their identity perhaps. When someone points out the flaws in faith they feel personally attacked.
I don't believe I'm crossing a line that mocks them personally. Maybe they feel it is a personal attack when I post something that implies they are stupid for believing.
I do remember recently having fun at religion's expense and posting something like "Brother XXXXX is going to read from the book of Libations tonight for Y'all. Lib 33:20 Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy" Is that mocking them? I was sort of mocking the bible.
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RE: Dealing with beliver friends on Facebook
July 15, 2012 at 12:07 am
This:
Quote:However, I question your motivation and relentless mocking of those of us who do believe.
negates this:
Quote:But I see all your posts about religion and I understand that you are well within your right to believe and say anything you want, and I can at any point just stop paying attention to you if I don't like your message,
and completely contradicts this:
Quote:I 100% believe you're wrong, but I do respect your right to believe as you do
What he wants you do is change your opinions so he is not made to feel uncomfortable. The choice is yours but I would tell this hypocrite to go fuck himself.
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