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RE: The argument against "evil", theists please come to the defense.
November 15, 2017 at 3:09 pm
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Love but not love, hate but not hate, mercy but not mercy. You realize that you're defending the anthropomorphism you consider to be a god by suggesting that it's a bunch of meaningless non-statements....right?
Again, I agree.
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RE: The argument against "evil", theists please come to the defense.
November 15, 2017 at 7:00 pm
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(November 15, 2017 at 11:28 am)MysticKnight Wrote: (November 15, 2017 at 7:22 am)bennyboy Wrote: Okay, so you do not believe that God is omni-present and omni-powerful, spanning all times despite being Himself timeless?
You think he is a limited entity, and that at least some things in the Universe are unknowable to Him?
Spamming all time assumes all time exists at that same time. If such was the case neither would Creator or creation be free in their actions.
Okay. So God has at least one limitation: he can't know out what's going to happen in the future. Is this your position? If so, are you ready here and now to formally renounce Islam and the Quran?
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RE: The argument against "evil", theists please come to the defense.
December 27, 2017 at 8:26 pm
(July 19, 2012 at 4:57 am)genkaus Wrote: (July 19, 2012 at 4:40 am)FallentoReason Wrote: As a former Christian, I used to say to this that Epicurus lived before the time of Jesus. God was willing to an extent to do something about it, hence why he sent Jesus. Do you think this is theologically satisfactory?
Nope, especially since a) he didn't send Jesus from the start and b) Jesus failed.
How did Jesus fail?
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RE: The argument against "evil", theists please come to the defense.
December 27, 2017 at 10:00 pm
(December 27, 2017 at 8:26 pm)Dan Brooks Wrote: (July 19, 2012 at 4:57 am)genkaus Wrote: Nope, especially since a) he didn't send Jesus from the start and b) Jesus failed.
How did Jesus fail?
By not existing, duh.
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RE: The argument against "evil", theists please come to the defense.
December 27, 2017 at 10:44 pm
(December 27, 2017 at 10:00 pm)Wololo Wrote: (December 27, 2017 at 8:26 pm)Dan Brooks Wrote: How did Jesus fail?
By not existing, duh.
Actually, even if jesus was extant, he lied. The three days of the crucifiction? Lie. Jesus died on the cross? Lie. Hell, jesus even had gay sex with a corpse. The lies just keep on coming.
One must simply understand that christians are deeply uncomfortable with what they are called to believe.
Talking donkeys? My ass. Or colt if one prefers.
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RE: The argument against "evil", theists please come to the defense.
December 28, 2017 at 9:26 pm
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(December 27, 2017 at 10:44 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (December 27, 2017 at 10:00 pm)Wololo Wrote: By not existing, duh.
Actually, even if jesus was extant, he lied. The three days of the crucifiction? Lie. Jesus died on the cross? Lie. Hell, jesus even had gay sex with a corpse. The lies just keep on coming.
One must simply understand that christians are deeply uncomfortable with what they are called to believe.
Talking donkeys? My ass. Or colt if one prefers.
What in the world are you talking about?
(December 27, 2017 at 10:00 pm)Wololo Wrote: (December 27, 2017 at 8:26 pm)Dan Brooks Wrote: How did Jesus fail?
By not existing, duh.
Well that genkaus said that God didn't send Jesus soon enough, and that when He did, Jesus failed. So I was asking how He failed. He accomplished everything He set out to do here.
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RE: The argument against "evil", theists please come to the defense.
December 28, 2017 at 9:41 pm
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(December 28, 2017 at 9:26 pm)Dan Brooks Wrote: Well that genkaus said that God didn't send Jesus soon enough, and that when He did, Jesus failed. So I was asking how He failed. He accomplished everything He set out to do here.
Genkaus hasn't been here in like two years, so he can't defend his statement.
The problem of evil has always appeared to be a weak argument to me anyway.
Hey man, your thread really caught on... why don't you post an intro thread in the introductions forum and hang for a while? We could always use more theists, especially ones who use logic in their posts.
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RE: The argument against "evil", theists please come to the defense.
December 29, 2017 at 7:08 pm
(December 28, 2017 at 9:26 pm)Dan Brooks Wrote: Well that genkaus said that God didn't send Jesus soon enough, and that when He did, Jesus failed. So I was asking how He failed. He accomplished everything He set out to do here.
Pretty sure he didn't save mankind. If he existed, he seems to have done a couple of parlor magic tricks and then been caught and executed by the Romans. I don't know Jesus personally, but I'm guessing that if he was a person, he probably would have preferred not to be strung up on a crucifix.
And if he was a God. . . well. . . talk about a strangely indirect way for the creator of all the billions of galaxies, quadrillions of stars, and uncountable particles in the universe to establish a role in human history.
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RE: The argument against "evil", theists please come to the defense.
December 29, 2017 at 7:21 pm
I miss frodo. As theists go, he was a good one.
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