The year of whose lord?

[Drich]

[jonb]

Was she married to Joseph when she got pregnant with Jesus?

Look the whole thing is made up, but for a man of that society to marry a girl with child would need some explaining. Oh sod this, you have somehow forced me into becoming a christian apologist, I need a drink after falling through that fence.

[Cinjin]

I read Drich's copy and paste:


You'd think your almighty, all knowing, perfect god could keep his authors from confusing the shit out of everyone and leave absolutely no room for theories, conjecture and the inevitable (and painfully obvious) contradictions.

It's the same ole same ole from you and your kind: "This is what god really meant, and all you need to do is trust me that THIS particular interpretation is the one true explanation." "Oh and uh, an extensive knowledge of ancient Hebrew and Greek, a library of ancient manuscripts, a Doctorate in Theology and a healthy dose of 'creative phrasing' is also very helpful in understanding what god REALLY meant."

[Reforged]

I read Drich's copy and paste:


You'd think your almighty, all knowing, perfect god could keep his authors from confusing the shit out of everyone and leave absolutely no room for theories, conjecture and the inevitable (and painfully obvious) contradictions.

It's the same ole same ole from you and your kind: "This is what god really meant, and all you need to do is trust me that THIS particular interpretation is the one true explanation." "Oh and uh, an extensive knowledge of ancient Hebrew and Greek, a library of ancient manuscripts, a Doctorate in Theology and a healthy dose of 'creative phrasing' is also very helpful in understanding what god REALLY meant."

hot-tub=drichs reasoning

I think some just took a big shit in your pool pal.

[Drich]

I read Drich's copy and paste:


You'd think your almighty, all knowing, perfect god could keep his authors from confusing the shit out of everyone and leave absolutely no room for theories, conjecture and the inevitable (and painfully obvious) contradictions.

It's the same ole same ole from you and your kind: "This is what god really meant, and all you need to do is trust me that THIS particular interpretation is the one true explanation." "Oh and uh, an extensive knowledge of ancient Hebrew and Greek, a library of ancient manuscripts, a Doctorate in Theology and a healthy dose of 'creative phrasing' is also very helpful in understanding what god REALLY meant."

There is no confusion for one willing to do just the tinest bit of research. It took me all of 2 mins to put that post together. The problem lies when one put all of his eggs into the english translation and ignores the fact that everything that is being discussed happened in a different time, culture and language. so yeah there are going to be some areas where things get lost in translation. It seems every other area of the world understands this except english speaking countries. This should be a bit of a wake up call in the the world, more over God does not revolve around you or what you think you understand. We have been commanded to seek God. looking past the english is apart of that 'seeking' process.

[KnockEmOuttt]

I read Drich's copy and paste:


You'd think your almighty, all knowing, perfect god could keep his authors from confusing the shit out of everyone and leave absolutely no room for theories, conjecture and the inevitable (and painfully obvious) contradictions.

It's the same ole same ole from you and your kind: "This is what god really meant, and all you need to do is trust me that THIS particular interpretation is the one true explanation." "Oh and uh, an extensive knowledge of ancient Hebrew and Greek, a library of ancient manuscripts, a Doctorate in Theology and a healthy dose of 'creative phrasing' is also very helpful in understanding what god REALLY meant."

There is no confusion for one willing to do just the tinest bit of research. It took me all of 2 mins to put that post together. The problem lies when one put all of his eggs into the english translation and ignores the fact that everything that is being discussed happened in a different time, culture and language. so yeah there are going to be some areas where things get lost in translation. It seems every other area of the world understands this except english speaking countries. This should be a bit of a wake up call in the the world, more over God does not revolve around you or what you think you understand. We have been commanded to seek God. looking past the english is apart of that 'seeking' process.

Most of those places you're talking about follow the bible very literally and blindly.

Things are perhaps "lost in translation", but it doesn't change the fact that the bible as we know it to be written is mostly true to the original translation, and the translated texts are what the religion is based on. The whole picking and choosing thing is just how Christians get around the fact that their "infallible" book is heavily flawed so that they can justify it. It doesn't change anything.

[Cinjin]

I read Drich's copy and paste:


You'd think your almighty, all knowing, perfect god could keep his authors from confusing the shit out of everyone and leave absolutely no room for theories, conjecture and the inevitable (and painfully obvious) contradictions.

It's the same ole same ole from you and your kind: "This is what god really meant, and all you need to do is trust me that THIS particular interpretation is the one true explanation." "Oh and uh, an extensive knowledge of ancient Hebrew and Greek, a library of ancient manuscripts, a Doctorate in Theology and a healthy dose of 'creative phrasing' is also very helpful in understanding what god REALLY meant."

There is no confusion for one willing to do just the tinest bit of research. It took me all of 2 mins to put that post together. The problem lies when one put all of his eggs into the english translation and ignores the fact that everything that is being discussed happened in a different time, culture and language. so yeah there are going to be some areas where things get lost in translation. It seems every other area of the world understands this except english speaking countries. This should be a bit of a wake up call in the the world, more over God does not revolve around you or what you think you understand. We have been commanded to seek God. looking past the english is apart of that 'seeking' process.

That's awesome. YOU have the internet and someone else's research and yet have the audacity to proclaim, "Hey it only took me 2 minutes to do the tiniest bit of research." Screw all those people who don't have the internet and someone else's extensive research. How obtuse can you possibly be??? If you wanted to know what god meant prior to 1993 and you didn't have access to a library of Hebrew and Greek and/or you simply weren't willing to take a fundy researcher's word for granted, you were screwed. Which equals BILLIONS of people. Your god's more impotent and pathetic than fat Elvis.

God: "Hey I want them to seek me ... and I'm going to make it a brutal son of a bitch to do just that."

[jonb]

We have been commanded to seek God. looking past the english is apart of that 'seeking' process.

I know just what you mean, always queuing up for something you want arn't they and getting in the way! I have much the same problem when looking at Belgiums, apples come from nowhere.

[Cinjin]

more over God does not revolve around you or what you think you understand.

From what I can tell, your god doesn't do shit. I mean seriously, he needs a good bitch slap and get off his lazy ass.

[Drich]

Most of those places you're talking about follow the bible very literally and blindly.

..And you know this because you been to "Most of those places" or are you relying on a sterotype?

Things are perhaps "lost in translation", but it doesn't change the fact that the bible as we know it to be written is mostly true to the original translation, and the translated texts are what the religion is based on. The whole picking and choosing thing is just how Christians get around the fact that their "infallible" book is heavily flawed so that they can justify it. It doesn't change anything.

ahhh, no.

the bible (Or rather most verions of it in the English) are what as known as a literal translation where they take a word in the greek or Hebrew and contextually translate and place it so it read smoothly to english readers. However inorder to do this a great deal is lost to translation. History, Cultural meanings, poetry, and a great majority of it is cast aside to maintain literal continuity, (closest thing to a word for word translation as possiable) rather than interject commentary. That said there are many bibles out there in the english that have commentary. But these are considered to be influenced by which ever brand of Christianity/or other faith has included the commentary.