Moses Lied! Contradiction Alert!!!

[Cinjin]

I love it when two people argue about the delicate balances played out between two fictional characters in a make believe story.

Christians are really just Trekkies fighting it out over whether or not James Kirk is better than Captain Picard.



SPOT ON COMPARISON:

[Cyberman]

Christians are really just Trekkies fighting it out over whether or not James Kirk is better than Captain Picard.

That really is sad and pathetic. Everyone knows Kirk is way better than Picard and all those other pretenders to the centre seat.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

I don't see how this is a contradiction. Jesus only changed Moses' law.

Jesus changed nothing. He funded a strictly Jewish sect,and admonished his follower to obey The Law [of Moses]


Matthew 5:17-19 KJV

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Christianity was de-Jewified primarily by the writer(s) known as Paul/Saul of Tarsus. This is actually quite funny;scholars such as Bart Ehrman are convinced that some of the Pauline Epistles [at least] are forgeries.


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Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why is a book by Bart D. Ehrman, a New Testament scholar at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.[1] The book introduces lay readers to the field of textual criticism of the Bible. Ehrman discusses a number of textual variants that resulted from intentional or accidental manuscript changes during the scriptorium era. The book, which made it to the New York Times Best Seller list, is available in hardcover and paperback.[2]

Summary

Ehrman recounts his personal experience with the study of the Bible and textual criticism. He summarizes the history of textual criticism, from the works of Desiderius Erasmus to the present. The book describes an early Christian environment in which the books that would later compose the New Testament were copied by hand, mostly by Christian amateurs. Ehrman concludes that various early scribes altered the New Testament texts in order to deemphasize the role of women in the early church, to unify and harmonize the different portrayals of Jesus in the four gospels, and to oppose certain heresies (such as Adoptionism). Ehrman contends that certain widely-held Christian beliefs, such about the divinity of Jesus, are associated not with the original words of scripture but with these later alterations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misquoting_Jesus

[Jackalope]

Christians are really just Trekkies fighting it out over whether or not James Kirk is better than Captain Picard.

That really is sad and pathetic. Everyone knows Kirk is way better than Picard and all those other pretenders to the centre seat.

Lies! Vile lies and blasphemy! Er, what's that? He said Kirk?

Oh, never mind. Carry on.

[Godscreated]

Scriptural proof that Moses lied:

Matthew 19:3-9
King James Version (KJV)

3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Yeshua contradicts Moses' law concerning divorce with these words.

Cherrypickers unite!

How can you use these verses to say Moses lied, when you say you do not believe in Jesus, sir to me you are the contradiction.

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IT'S most unlikely that Moses lied,simply because it's almost certain he did not exist. He and the Exodus are almost certainly myth.

Modern archaeology shows that the Jews did not invade Canaan, and kill the Canaanites, that the Jews WERE Canaanite and part of a mass migration after the collapse of the Mesopotamian empire in the early 13rth century bce.Nor is it likely that the Davidic empire existed,although it seems there my have been "a house of David"

The Book of Exodus claims SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND Jews left Egypt in the Exodus. At that time, the entire population of both Upper and Lower Egypt was around 2 million.. A reasonable person might think some literate person would have noticed at the time and written something down, but nobody did. (as far as I am aware so far)

The Pharaohs were known to have all the history of those they disliked removed, this may be the case for the Israelites.

[The Grand Nudger]

We'd be looking for a little more than scribblings on a wall or marks on papyrus. The egyptians ability to absolutely eradicate such a large exodus from the record (keep in mind that we can spot minor parts of the silk road -from orbit- after all this time, even though we don't think more than a few camels ever crossed these particular paths) would be a miracle of the first order -and I wasn't aware that god was on their side..performing miracles for them. No dice GC.

There's something hilariously wrong with proposing that there would be no evidence -as evidence-.

[catfish]

How can you use these verses to say Moses lied, when you say you do not believe in Jesus, sir to me you are the contradiction.

You should learn to read more carefully. I said that Jesus is no savior...

[Godscreated]

How can you use these verses to say Moses lied, when you say you do not believe in Jesus, sir to me you are the contradiction.

You should learn to read more carefully. I said that Jesus is no savior...

Yes but the Jesus of those scriptures claims to be the savior, so how is it you can believe in Jesus the man only and use the words of Jesus the savior, does not compute.

[catfish]

Yes but the Jesus of those scriptures claims to be the savior, so how is it you can believe in Jesus the man only and use the words of Jesus the savior, does not compute.

Where in the scriptures does Yeshua make that claim?

[catfish]

Well guys, it would seem that some people are afraid to confront the points I have made.

Cognitive dissonance?