Why do Christians sound stupid?

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Well maybe you should re-read where I differentiated between unbelievers and Atheists, comparing the latter to Fundies

What is it that you did not understand in the last sentence of my previous post?

IF you can prove any of your claims, please show me. If not, I invite you to stop wasting my time and kindly fuck off..

Idiot

[Polaris]

You failed to grasp the simplest statement, so I did not read the rest of your post. Now go take your advise.

[greneknight]

You failed to grasp the simplest statement, so I did not read the rest of your post. Now go take your advise.

Polaris, your reply above to Padraic is what I would call a descent to the "Holy Spirit garbage talk". Usually, when a Christian realizes he's talking rubbish, and there's a great deal of rubbish that a Christian can spew from his mouth, he will go into stupid one-liners that sound insane and meaningless or that are pure accusations without the smallest basis. Children do that very often. For us Christians, it's almost as if the Holy Spirit that supposedly dwell in us is making us utter such silly garbage and hence my delightful name for this kind of utterance.

Polaris, I know you are angry because you know what I have written about ourselves is true. We do sound stupid in most forums or at least most Christians. They've even set up dedicated websites to laugh at the really stupid things that can only come from the "anointed" lips of Christians.

I'm trying to show by this thread that there is a reason why we sound stupid. It's because we believe in superstitious RUBBISH. Let's not mince our words. If someone believes in the supernatural powers of a witchdoctor, of course he will sound like someone who badly needs a lobotomy. The same with us.

I believe that the world will be a better place for all of us if there is complete understanding all round. Atheists need to understand why we sound stupid and we need to understand why atheists are impatient with some of us. We can't have it both ways. If we insist on defending our so vulnerable unicorn or worse, if we even try to make schools teach a belief in the unicorn (as I understand American schools can be that insane sometimes), I really don't blame atheists for not treating us with kid gloves. Even I as a Christian have very little patience with Christian insanity. I don't blame atheists if they can't take our nonsense.

The day will come when Christians will all wise up and drop their superstitious beliefs but we have a long way to go.

[Godscreated]

@ greneknight, please do not associate yourself with Christians, it really is unbecoming. The junk you spew from your childish mouth is that of a spoiled brat that does not get his way, chill out and claim yourself to be the nonbeliever you are.

[greneknight]

@ greneknight, please do not associate yourself with Christians, it really is unbecoming. The junk you spew from your childish mouth is that of a spoiled brat that does not get his way, chill out and claim yourself to be the nonbeliever you are.

Godschild, you are a Southern Baptist, a non-conformist and a registered fundy. The Church of England, also known as the Established Church, let me remind you, is the only Protestant church with apostolic succession. When I go for Confirmation later this year by a bishop (I'm hoping it would be THE Archbishop himself), the Apostolic blessings will be passed down through the bishops to me. It's traditionally accepted that each bishop in my church has received the blessing from a previous bishop and this goes all the way back to St Peter himself, the keeper of the keys given by Jesus himself. I'm a sceptic so I don't really think it's accurate but at least it's traditionally believed to be so.

Whereas your fundy church is a church that got started by a bunch of people who despised the one Baptism given by the church and re-baptised themselves. It's a church started by heretics.

So when you, a known heretic, tell me that I'm not a Christian when my Apostolic Succession church accepts me as an altar boy attending to the holiest of rituals at the altar of God, I can't help but laugh at your audacity.

In short, you are a heretic and you are not in the position to tell an altar boy of the Established Church whether he is or is not a Christian.

[pocaracas]

Oh, this is sweet: inter-christian fight in an atheist forum!

[Godscreated]

@ greneknight, please do not associate yourself with Christians, it really is unbecoming. The junk you spew from your childish mouth is that of a spoiled brat that does not get his way, chill out and claim yourself to be the nonbeliever you are.

Godschild, you are a Southern Baptist, a non-conformist and a registered fundy. The Church of England, also known as the Established Church, let me remind you, is the only Protestant church with apostolic succession. When I go for Confirmation later this year by a bishop (I'm hoping it would be THE Archbishop himself), the Apostolic blessings will be passed down through the bishops to me. It's traditionally accepted that each bishop in my church has received the blessing from a previous bishop and this goes all the way back to St Peter himself, the keeper of the keys given by Jesus himself. I'm a sceptic so I don't really think it's accurate but at least it's traditionally believed to be so.

Whereas your fundy church is a church that got started by a bunch of people who despised the one Baptism given by the church and re-baptised themselves. It's a church started by heretics.

So when you, a known heretic, tell me that I'm not a Christian when my Apostolic Succession church accepts me as an altar boy attending to the holiest of rituals at the altar of God, I can't help but laugh at your audacity.

In short, you are a heretic and you are not in the position to tell an altar boy of the Established Church whether he is or is not a Christian.

Oh goody goody your an alter boy of a church that doesn't even believe in Christ the Messiah, yet you want to claim Peter as your hero. You do know Peter was a follower of Jesus Christ, no I guess you don't since you think the scriptures are a bunch of nonsense. Well if you want to do a little comparison deal we can, I'm an ordained deacon of the church, and deacons were part of the original church, they were doing work in the church long before there were Archbishops.
The Baptist church baptizes with water as a symbol of our acceptance of Christ, the symbolism is identifying with the life of Christ in His death, burial and resurrection. The real baptism comes from the Holy Spirit, anointing true believers into the church of Christ ie. the family of God. Son you have a lot to learn, I suggest you get with it and find the truth about Christ. I can see that all you are interested in is being noticed, of coarse I guess that is what pimple faced prepubescent boys do.

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Oh, this is sweet: inter-christian fight in an atheist forum!

He is not a Biblical Christian, he's like a lot of people of all manner, a want-a-be.

[greneknight]

Oh goody goody your an alter boy of a church that doesn't even believe in Christ the Messiah, yet you want to claim Peter as your hero. You do know Peter was a follower of Jesus Christ, no I guess you don't since you think the scriptures are a bunch of nonsense.

The Church of England confesses Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of God. But we are a progressive church and not a stick-in-the-mud superstitious church like the Baptists who look back with pride to their old witch-hunt days in Salem when innocent old women were burnt alive because they believed in one stupid verse written by bloodthirsty ancient Israelites who really didn't know better.

Our church consists of all kinds of people. There are the duffers (and they probably have the same childish understanding of the faith and very much like Baptists but at least they aren't fundies) and there are people who are really progressive. One example is our previous Archbishop of York who was a great scholar. He even questioned the historicity of Jesus. He said there was never a bloke called Jesus - I mean the one we mean (but of course there might have been all kinds of rascals named Jesus in those days but we aren't talking about those). I do believe our Jesus existed in history so in a sense, I'm not as progressive as that Archbishop. But our church is a progressive church and we allow people to think. We don't chain the minds of parishioners the way Baptists do it. Reason is one of the main tenets of the Church so we encourage doubts and scepticism.

Well if you want to do a little comparison deal we can, I'm an ordained deacon of the church, and deacons were part of the original church, they were doing work in the church long before there were Archbishops.

Ho Ho Ho! I am tickled pink. Who, pray tell, ordained you? You are all self-appointed priests and no doubt you were ordained by a self-appointed bishop who was installed by another heretical self-appointed archbishop. You see, if you are cut out from the Apostolic church, you can't do any ordaining. Don't you see it? You can only trace your church to the first time someone became a heretic and decided to spurn the holy baptism of mother church and there you have the first Baptist. I read somewhere he baptised himself and others!!! What a heresy!!!

The Baptist church baptizes with water as a symbol of our acceptance of Christ, the symbolism is identifying with the life of Christ in His death, burial and resurrection. The real baptism comes from the Holy Spirit, anointing true believers into the church of Christ ie. the family of God.

In the first place, all churches use water for baptism. The Baptist church just copied the mode used by the apostolic church, ie mine.
It's heresy to say there is another baptism. There is ONE baptism for the forgiveness of sins. That's in the Creed that even heretics like you recite.

Son you have a lot to learn, I suggest you get with it and find the truth about Christ. I can see that all you are interested in is being noticed, of coarse I guess that is what pimple faced prepubescent boys do.

As they say, sticks and stones....
Prepubescence is only a short-lived thing and in my case, it sure is going to be VERY short-lived. I don't think I need to be any more specific. Even the church pulled me out from the choir together with other boys. If prepubescence were a permanent feature, we'd be singing soprano all our lives. Read a biology book if you don't know this.

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Oh, this is sweet: inter-christian fight in an atheist forum!

He is not a Biblical Christian, he's like a lot of people of all manner, a want-a-be.

What? Someone from a heretical church dares to call an altar boy from the Holy Apostolic Church a wanna-be? I've seen baptist churches. They're much smaller than a tiny chapel within a typical cathedral. A Baptist who enters one of my churches will probably gasp at the splendour of a real church and for the first time in his life, he'd be thinking what a rotten deal he had for being cut off from the Apostolic church. But we accept heretics and fundies who repent of their sin of fundyism. There's no greater sin than fundyism.

[pocaracas]

Ho Ho Ho! I am tickled pink. Who, pray tell, ordained you? You are all self-appointed priests and no doubt you were ordained by a self-appointed bishop who was installed by another heretical self-appointed archbishop. You see, if you are cut out from the Apostolic church, you can't do any ordaining. Don't you see it? You can only trace your church to the first time someone became a heretic and decided to spurn the holy baptism of mother church and there you have the first Baptist. I read somewhere he baptised himself and others!!! What a heresy!!!

Can't we say the same about the Anglican in relation to the Catholic?
And then the Catholic in relation to the Orthodox?
And the orthodox in relation to the jews?
And... what comes after? I don't know...

[Polaris]

You failed to grasp the simplest statement, so I did not read the rest of your post. Now go take your advise.

Polaris, your reply above to Padraic is what I would call a descent to the "Holy Spirit garbage talk". Usually, when a Christian realizes he's talking rubbish, and there's a great deal of rubbish that a Christian can spew from his mouth, he will go into stupid one-liners that sound insane and meaningless or that are pure accusations without the smallest basis. Children do that very often. For us Christians, it's almost as if the Holy Spirit that supposedly dwell in us is making us utter such silly garbage and hence my delightful name for this kind of utterance.

Polaris, I know you are angry because you know what I have written about ourselves is true. We do sound stupid in most forums or at least most Christians. They've even set up dedicated websites to laugh at the really stupid things that can only come from the "anointed" lips of Christians.

I'm trying to show by this thread that there is a reason why we sound stupid. It's because we believe in superstitious RUBBISH. Let's not mince our words. If someone believes in the supernatural powers of a witchdoctor, of course he will sound like someone who badly needs a lobotomy. The same with us.

I believe that the world will be a better place for all of us if there is complete understanding all round. Atheists need to understand why we sound stupid and we need to understand why atheists are impatient with some of us. We can't have it both ways. If we insist on defending our so vulnerable unicorn or worse, if we even try to make schools teach a belief in the unicorn (as I understand American schools can be that insane sometimes), I really don't blame atheists for not treating us with kid gloves. Even I as a Christian have very little patience with Christian insanity. I don't blame atheists if they can't take our nonsense.

The day will come when Christians will all wise up and drop their superstitious beliefs but we have a long way to go.

Even unbelievers understand the difference between themselves and self-proclaimed (I assume you do so in public at least) Atheists like yourself.

The day will come when you Anglo Atheists start acting just like the rational European atheists, but that is a long way off....until then, we just have to accept you pulling the same BS that Christian Fundamentalists in the US shove unto us.

You can't expect us to take your side when you aren't even honest with yourself.