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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
September 16, 2012 at 3:32 pm
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(September 16, 2012 at 2:52 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Edit: min, never met a Christian who believed a JW or a Mormon was a Christian
Of course not. They aren't "True Xtians" but when they want to assert of gross number of jesus freaks they scrape up every bit of horseshit they can find ( even catholics!) to add to the total.
However, to quote H. L. Mencken.
Of learned men, the clergy show the lowest development of professional ethics. Any pastor is free to cadge customers from the divines of rival sects, and to denounce the divines themselves as theological quacks.
Catholics are Christians.
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
September 16, 2012 at 4:04 pm
(September 16, 2012 at 1:33 pm)Polaris Wrote: Edit: min, never met a Christian who believed a JW or a Mormon was a Christian
A Mormon orJW believes they are christians. You have decided those you perceive as christians are those that do not accept the Mormons or JWs as christians.
I forget the logical fallacy there, but I am sure another will bring it up.
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
September 16, 2012 at 4:09 pm
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
September 16, 2012 at 4:20 pm
(September 16, 2012 at 4:04 pm)IATIA Wrote: (September 16, 2012 at 1:33 pm)Polaris Wrote: Edit: min, never met a Christian who believed a JW or a Mormon was a Christian
A Mormon orJW believes they are christians. You have decided those you perceive as christians are those that do not accept the Mormons or JWs as christians.
I forget the logical fallacy there, but I am sure another will bring it up.
They do? I don't think either of them even uses the Bible (well JW may use their own Bible where they changed it to fit their views).
Bush could announce to the American people he's always been a Democrat deep down and may trick himself into accepting this as a reality....would you call it fallacy for the American people not to believe it?
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
September 16, 2012 at 4:26 pm
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(September 16, 2012 at 4:20 pm)Polaris Wrote: They do? I don't think either of them even uses the Bible (well JW may use their own Bible where they changed it to fit their views).
Bush could announce to the American people he's always been a Democrat deep down and may trick himself into accepting this as a reality....would you call it fallacy for the American people not to believe it?
Mormons use the Bible. Smith wasn't satisfied with it so he created an additional testament, but the Bible is still widely used and referenced.
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
September 16, 2012 at 5:20 pm
christian sects
Catholic
Orthodox/Eastern Christian
African indigenous sects (AICs)
Pentecostal
Reformed/Presbyterian/Congregational/United
Anglican
Baptist
Methodist
Lutheran
Jehovah’s Witnesses
Adventist
Latter Day Saints
Apostolic/New Apostolic
Stone-Campbell ("Restoration Movement")
New Thought (Unity, Christian Science, etc.)
Brethren (incl. Plymouth)
Mennonite
Friends (Quakers)
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
September 16, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Quote:Bush could announce to the American people he's always been a Democrat
Romney has managed to make republicunts forget most of his positions from just a few years ago.
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
September 16, 2012 at 7:18 pm
(September 16, 2012 at 5:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Bush could announce to the American people he's always been a Democrat
Romney has managed to make republicunts forget most of his positions from just a few years ago.
It's too bad the nation did not go with Romeycare, but instead went with the more corrupt Obamacare.
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
September 16, 2012 at 8:37 pm
(September 16, 2012 at 9:30 am)Puddleglum Wrote: I hear a lot ,lately, about how US christianity has its own 'fundamentalists' who are 'just as extreme' as the Muslim ones.
This is demonstrably nonsense. The behaviour of your average loony baptist,creationist biblical literalist if observed in the Muslim would would be unbelievably moderate ,liberal even.
Christian loons don't kill their daughters for 'dishonouring' the family, they don't start mass riots and storm the embassies of Muslim countries because of some insult that Muslims have made against Christians
There is simply no equivalence at all.
I think the parallel lies not in the extremist behaviour, but rather the staggering amount ignorance required of them.
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
September 16, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Equivalent?
I think the difference is culture, not religion.
My reason for thinking this is that as an anglo-saxon I come from a culture, where a certain level of rudeness is acceptable, I can tell you what I think about you. As such in our culture there is always an amount of strife. However in other cultures it is seen as a wrong act to upset another. Being to an extent culturally biased, I think that creates a more fragile society which tends to erupt into periods of violence, between times of great harmony.
If you compare England with France, France seems to have more violent riots. So it seems to evolve in fits and starts, whereas England by comparison seems to gradually change in small constant increments. I remember reading somewhere Napoleon could not understand after reading of the vicious debates in parliament why factions of brits would not turn to his support, but would rather go off drinking together, and maintain a constant front against him.
I also see that in the middle east the western support for governments which do not allow free speech in Arabic countries, but seem to think that anything goes in the west could be upsetting, and that is enough to fracture the normal requirement for the moderate path.
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