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God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
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RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(September 25, 2012 at 12:08 pm)Drich Wrote: do you really need me to take apart your arguement line by line, or can you come to an understanding based on the other arguement that is going on here?

http://atheistforums.org/thread-14912-page-7.html
Post #62

But you're losing that argument...
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#32
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(September 25, 2012 at 12:08 pm)Drich Wrote: do you really need me to take apart your arguement line by line, or can you come to an understanding based on the other arguement that is going on here?

http://atheistforums.org/thread-14912-page-7.html
Post #62

Bring it on!

Explain the Ezekiel passage! It's plainly child sacrifice. You pointing out how that contradicts with other traditions does not help your case. You're merely showing how the Bible contradicts itself!
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-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
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#33
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(September 24, 2012 at 9:04 pm)Drich Wrote: Appearently i am no longer allowed to cut and paste answers.

You? No, nobody is allowed to cut-and-paste large tracts of text from external sources, especially copyrighted text.

You're expected to do what everyone else is expected to do - quote a portion of it (consistent with the fair use doctrine) to establish some context and link to the original source.

You are not a special little snowflake and aren't being singled out for special treatment.

But, please, don't let us interfere with your martyr complex.
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#34
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(September 25, 2012 at 2:26 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(September 24, 2012 at 9:04 pm)Drich Wrote: Appearently i am no longer allowed to cut and paste answers.

You? No, nobody is allowed to cut-and-paste large tracts of text from external sources, especially copyrighted text.

You're expected to do what everyone else is expected to do - quote a portion of it (consistent with the fair use doctrine) to establish some context and link to the original source.

You are not a special little snowflake and aren't being singled out for special treatment.

But, please, don't let us interfere with your martyr complex.
What are you talking about? I consistantly see entire videos being ripped off and displayed to make an arguement, and there are entire thread that were created based completely on the written works of others. Some have references and others do not. Matter of fact the thread I was referencing was completely based on the works of others. All that OP did was cut and paste large chunks of published work together. I responded in the same spirit and effort that OP posted in. His works remain (along with other atheist works of large swaths of publushed work being presented as the back bone of their arguements.) and nothing is said or done there.
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#35
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(September 25, 2012 at 2:54 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 25, 2012 at 2:26 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You? No, nobody is allowed to cut-and-paste large tracts of text from external sources, especially copyrighted text.

You're expected to do what everyone else is expected to do - quote a portion of it (consistent with the fair use doctrine) to establish some context and link to the original source.

You are not a special little snowflake and aren't being singled out for special treatment.

But, please, don't let us interfere with your martyr complex.
What are you talking about? I consistantly see entire videos being ripped off and displayed to make an arguement, and there are entire thread that were created based completely on the written works of others. Some have references and others do not. Matter of fact the thread I was referencing was completely based on the works of others. All that OP did was cut and paste large chunks of published work together. I responded in the same spirit and effort that OP posted in. His works remain (along with other atheist works of large swaths of publushed work being presented as the back bone of their arguements.) and nothing is said or done there.

Drich - we act on those that we see or are reported, regardless of who the poster is. If we don't see it, we can't act on it.
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#36
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(September 25, 2012 at 2:16 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Bring it on! Explain the Ezekiel passage!
The Passage you referenced in EZK 20? Where God allows those who wish to worship other God the freedom to sacerfice their sons to them? (The other Gods?)

READ THE CHAPTER FOR YOURSELF! The Whole first half of the Chapter is God explaining all of the times the Jews betrayed Him and How they betrayed Him even after all that He had done. Verse 27 is God allowing the Jews who wanted to worship other gods the freedom to corrupt themselves by sacerficing their sons.

Try a different version of the bible if you are having a hard time understanding this concept.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=NLT
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#37
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(September 25, 2012 at 3:37 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 25, 2012 at 2:16 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Bring it on! Explain the Ezekiel passage!
The Passage you referenced in EZK 20? Where God allows those who wish to worship other God the freedom to sacerfice their sons to them? (The other Gods?)

READ THE CHAPTER FOR YOURSELF! The Whole first half of the Chapter is God explaining all of the times the Jews betrayed Him and How they betrayed Him even after all that He had done. Verse 27 is God allowing the Jews who wanted to worship other gods the freedom to corrupt themselves by sacerficing their sons.

Try a different version of the bible if you are having a hard time understanding this concept.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=NLT

Quote:25 Moreover I gave them statutes that were not good and ordinances by which they could not have life; 26 and I defiled them through their very gifts in making them offer by fire all their first-born, that I might horrify them; I did it that they might know that I am the LORD.
(bolding mine)
There is a difference between "allowing the Jews who wanted to worship other gods the freedom to corrupt themselves by sacerficing their sons" and "making them offer by fire all their first-born". The first implies that there is a choice, the second (from the passage) does not.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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#38
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(September 25, 2012 at 3:06 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(September 25, 2012 at 2:54 pm)Drich Wrote: What are you talking about? I consistantly see entire videos being ripped off and displayed to make an arguement, and there are entire thread that were created based completely on the written works of others. Some have references and others do not. Matter of fact the thread I was referencing was completely based on the works of others. All that OP did was cut and paste large chunks of published work together. I responded in the same spirit and effort that OP posted in. His works remain (along with other atheist works of large swaths of publushed work being presented as the back bone of their arguements.) and nothing is said or done there.

Drich - we act on those that we see or are reported, regardless of who the poster is. If we don't see it, we can't act on it.
lol, do you have selective vision or am I the only one being ratted out? If so doesn't that confirm my martyer status eitherway?
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#39
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(September 25, 2012 at 3:43 pm)Drich Wrote: lol, do you have selective vision or am I the only one being ratted out? If so doesn't that confirm my martyer status eitherway?

Which post are you accusing of posting an article without reference? (honest question)
EDIT: wait I think I found it
post #23 here.
In one of your posts
Quote:(Yesterday at 17:11) Faith No More edited this post for the following reason:

Shortened post and added link. Please, only partially quote articles and always give a link.
Faith No More Wrote:What do you not understand about do not quote the entire article? Copying and pasting is okay as long as it's not a majority of the article.
But mistakes aren't ignored if they aren't "for god":
Faith No More Wrote:@System of Solace, please cite all of your sources in the future.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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#40
RE: God commands child sacrifice (not Isaac story)
(September 25, 2012 at 3:37 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 25, 2012 at 2:16 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Bring it on! Explain the Ezekiel passage!
The Passage you referenced in EZK 20? Where God allows those who wish to worship other God the freedom to sacerfice their sons to them? (The other Gods?)

READ THE CHAPTER FOR YOURSELF! The Whole first half of the Chapter is God explaining all of the times the Jews betrayed Him and How they betrayed Him even after all that He had done. Verse 27 is God allowing the Jews who wanted to worship other gods the freedom to corrupt themselves by sacerficing their sons.

Try a different version of the bible if you are having a hard time understanding this concept.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=NLT

I read the chapter! That's not what it says. NLT is not a serious translation. It's a water downed version to appeal to the popular evangelical market.

The verse says nothing about sacrificing to "other gods"! That's only found in your translation. It's not in the text.
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