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why there is a need to see in order to believe?

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why there is a need to see in order to believe?
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#51
RE: why there is a need to see in order to believe?
October 12, 2012 at 8:09 pm
IATA, prove God is against logic.
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#52
RE: why there is a need to see in order to believe?
October 12, 2012 at 8:13 pm
(October 12, 2012 at 8:09 pm)wkl6644 Wrote: IATA, prove God is against logic.
Is your god finite or infinite?
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#53
RE: why there is a need to see in order to believe?
October 12, 2012 at 8:16 pm (This post was last modified: October 12, 2012 at 8:19 pm by wkl6644.)
Gilgamesh

I meant if you deprive the poor the need for food. They will end up stealing.
IATA
English in not my spoken language.
I might interpret differently what finite means. Can you use anither word
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#54
RE: why there is a need to see in order to believe?
October 12, 2012 at 8:28 pm
who is this guy????




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#55
RE: why there is a need to see in order to believe?
October 12, 2012 at 9:03 pm
(October 12, 2012 at 8:28 pm)Cinjin Wrote: who is this guy????

I think you may find he is somebody else's-
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RE: why there is a need to see in order to believe?
October 12, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Jonb.

At least you believe they existed once upon a time ago. And they were not God . just messengers.

just like internet you need middlemen in the form of serversrouters, modem and what not to get your message acrosss or delivered
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#57
RE: why there is a need to see in order to believe?
October 12, 2012 at 9:18 pm
I am an Absurdist, I do not believe in anything, I think the notion of believing is intellectual suicide. You make assumptions too easily which I think answers this thread perfectly.
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#58
RE: why there is a need to see in order to believe?
October 12, 2012 at 9:25 pm
Prerequisite for believing the unseen is logic. Imagine you are blind and can't see a thing. Would you believe a car can't stand on its own with 2 tires. So you would logic instead since u can't see . Then you draw a logical conclusion without even seeing. Since It makes sense you start believing it
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#59
RE: why there is a need to see in order to believe?
October 12, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Quote: just like internet you need middlemen in the form of serversrouters, modem and what not to get your message acrosss or delivered

"God" needs a middleman? What is he? Shy?

God is whatever the men who invented him want him to be. That goes for all variants of the angry desert god, too.
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RE: why there is a need to see in order to believe?
October 12, 2012 at 9:28 pm
(October 12, 2012 at 6:12 am)Napoléon Wrote: There isn't. There's a need for evidence.

Kind of ironic since there are many atheists who make claims about religion for which there actually exists no evidence.....well evidence in the academic sense, which to be honest, is the only evidence that means a damn.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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