No...It Isn't What You Think

[TaraJo]

The problem with both is that they coddle men with more resources than they possibly can spend and have no history of investing it significantly.

Tiberius et al might claim it is their right to keep their gains, but I've been of the firm opinion that your rights end when you stand by and don't even support those less fortunate than you, with respect to basic human rights like basic housing, food and health care.

If someone is starving not out of their own volition in your country and you have the riches and resources to stop it, you have a moral obligation.

And when enough people forget that moral obligation, then it falls to the government to enforce that until people voluntarily pick up the slack.

Every rich man collected money from his community.

Old-style conservatives and old-style liberals both knew and embraced that. They also talked big about contributing back to their country.

The new ones simply care only about their own riches and fuck everyone who has less than them.

They're going beyond that. They're claiming that giving the wealthy what they want, massive deregulation, control over giant media empires, tax cuts, corporate welfare, they're saying that's for the good of our society and our economy. Where do you think the term 'job creator' came from?

Truth be told, I have no issue with them being able to get more of what they want as long as they're actually using it to help the economy. I say, the millionaires want to keep their tax cuts, fine: they can keep them as long as they're actually using those tax cuts to create jobs. They get to keep a percentage of the tax cut depending on how many new jobs they create here in the US (and, no, that doesn't include sweat shop jobs overseas or India call centers and, no, it doesn't include jobs in places like Guam which are technically US territories but US labor laws don't apply).

If the job creator class is actually doing their job and creating jobs, they get to keep their tax cuts. If not, I'd rather the government get the money and use it towards government jobs, pay off government debt or to liven up social security. I don't want to give a huge tax cut to some plutocrat who's just going to use it to buy slave labor in China.

[Spectrum]

but hey at least he's white.

Why did you bring that up?


Personally, I think he makes light of being White. His bullshit about being "Anglo-Saxon" was very misinformed. As someone who is in touch with his European ancestry, I wanted to punch him in the face (well, no more than usual) for being such a dickweed.

[Minimalist]

Yeah - I wonder why.....


http://apnews.excite.com/article/2012102...03VO3.html

In all, 51 percent of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in a similar 2008 survey. When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56 percent, up from 49 percent during the last presidential election. In both tests, the share of Americans expressing pro-black attitudes fell.

"As much as we'd hope the impact of race would decline over time ... it appears the impact of anti-black sentiment on voting is about the same as it was four years ago," said Jon Krosnick, a Stanford University professor who worked with AP to develop the survey.

Most Americans expressed anti-Hispanic sentiments, too.

[cratehorus]

I'm a Turkish nationalist, true.

so once your done with your racist genocide and everyone but muslim Turks are dead, what would the world look like?

[kılıç_mehmet]

I'm a Turkish nationalist, true.

so once your done with your racist genocide and everyone but muslim Turks are dead, what would the world look like?

I think that you're very misninformed. I do not want the world. I just want the places where we are.
Neither do I differentiate between a moslem Turk and a christian Turk. If you're a Turk, you're my kin and brother. If not, you're not.
I am not interested in other nations and ethnicities. I rather would like us to be free from the unwanted attentions and molestations of other peoples. If that requires that we fight, we fight.
However we fight only until every last one of us is free from the grasp of the foreigner.
That certainly does not require us to pull out a measure so dramatic as you describe it.

In Marxist communism every person is supposed to have an equal share in the capital. Don't mistake communism for what happened in Russia.

In theory, true. But in action, you need someone to distribute this capital to someone. And obviously, you cannot have your president or some higher-ups living in the same conditions as a lowly worker, can you now? And since their only purpose in actually working for the communist system is not due to their great loyalty to their people(communism eradicates nationalism), nor their great loyalty to their country(communism espouses internationalism).

Now don't come to me, and tell me that communism doesn't do this and doesn't do that because practically every application of communist ideology in history is a repressive failure.
I'm not mistaking anything. In fact, I see communism as the harmful and faulty ideology and economic system it is and always was.

Like for example, in communism, the workers own the factory. But they're nothing more than just workers still. I really think that communism is an ideology that insults a man's intelligence by producing such crap like this.

[Spectrum]

Yeah - I wonder why.....


http://apnews.excite.com/article/2012102...03VO3.html

In all, 51 percent of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in a similar 2008 survey. When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56 percent, up from 49 percent during the last presidential election. In both tests, the share of Americans expressing pro-black attitudes fell.

"As much as we'd hope the impact of race would decline over time ... it appears the impact of anti-black sentiment on voting is about the same as it was four years ago," said Jon Krosnick, a Stanford University professor who worked with AP to develop the survey.

Most Americans expressed anti-Hispanic sentiments, too.

Apparently there is a 50/50 chance I'm a racist, just because I am White. What constitutes as being "anti-black"? I want to know.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Being anti-someone doesn't make you racist. Being pro-yourself does.
If you love your people/race/ethnicity more than the others, you're a *racist*.

[Spectrum]

Being anti-someone doesn't make you racist. Being pro-yourself does.
If you love your people/race/ethnicity more than the others, you're a *racist*.

Exactly, that article is total bullshit, because it places people into a concocted category for political reasons.

Most Americans are not racists. Only a small few are, and they are maligned extremists. Liberals like to play on hysteria, claiming there is "implicit racism" all around us. You can be racist, and not know! *Gasp

[kılıç_mehmet]

Being anti-someone doesn't make you racist. Being pro-yourself does.
If you love your people/race/ethnicity more than the others, you're a *racist*.

Exactly, that article is total bullshit, because it places people into a concocted category for political reasons.

Most Americans are not racists. Only a small few are, and they are maligned extremists. Liberals like to play on hysteria, claiming there is "implicit racism" all around us. You can be racist, and not know! *Gasp

Friend, if you ask me, there is nothing more natural than to be a racist.
People will naturally favor their own kin over the others, and stand against those whom they perceive as a threat to their own kind.

[downbeatplumb]

Friend, if you ask me, there is nothing more natural than to be a racist.
People will naturally favor their own kin over the others, and stand against those whom they perceive as a threat to their own kind.

This sort of thinking belongs in the past.