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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 6, 2012 at 2:29 pm
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(November 6, 2012 at 1:48 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: Also he can't be all powerful as he can't forgive First, can you support that he can't forgive? Seems to me I've been forgiven. Second, how is forgiving a function of power?
Quote:and he could fix the planet without even blinking so he is either not all powerful or to lazy/evil to do anything thing about it.
As the Bible notes, he's longsuffering and letting the world go on for his own purposes.
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 6, 2012 at 3:31 pm
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(November 6, 2012 at 2:29 pm)John V Wrote: First, can you support that he can't forgive? Seems to me I've been forgiven. Second, how is forgiving a fuction of power? That -would- be quite the explanation..........
Quote:As the Bible notes, he's longsuffering and letting the world go on for his own purposes.
So would that.....
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 6, 2012 at 3:45 pm
(November 6, 2012 at 2:28 pm)Kirbmarc Wrote: Quote:I would
You scare me.
Same, I would give him the finger as say 'smite me'
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 6, 2012 at 3:59 pm
(November 6, 2012 at 3:45 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: (November 6, 2012 at 2:28 pm)Kirbmarc Wrote: You scare me.
Same, I would give him the finger as say 'smite me'
No worries, it is much more probable that God would have his followers die selflessly for others than take a life.
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 6, 2012 at 4:00 pm
What metrics did you use to determine this probability?
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm
(November 6, 2012 at 3:59 pm)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: (November 6, 2012 at 3:45 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: Same, I would give him the finger as say 'smite me'
No worries, it is much more probable that God would have his followers die selflessly for others than take a life.
How can you claim this knowing that the god of the bible frequently calls for the killing of others? Not to mention his fetish for dick skin as a means of assuring that more of the others will be killed.
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 6, 2012 at 4:17 pm
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You know how hard it is to get a god-sized leather jacket in heaven Cato? Guys gotta do what he's gotta do. Coat of many colors indeed.... 
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 6, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Christians raging about what their god wants sounds no different to me than the Star Wars diehard fans arguing about what the force is.
Incoherent metaphysical babbling.
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 6, 2012 at 5:33 pm
(November 6, 2012 at 2:20 pm)John V Wrote: (November 6, 2012 at 11:53 am)pocaracas Wrote: This is how normal people define knowledge.
If you tell me that an individual in the "information age" such as you or me know less than someone from 3 thousand years ago, living in the desert, then something is wrong with your concept of knowledge. I'm saying the opposite of that. I agree that they had less knowledge. "More knowledge?" was a rhetorical repeat of the question, to which I answered "No."
Indeed you did... I must have misinterpreted it. Sorry about that...
Then you say they were smarter than we are now. Like I said, they knew about their environment, like we know about ours. We keep adapting to new things... back then, new things were not that common...
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RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
November 6, 2012 at 5:57 pm
(November 6, 2012 at 5:33 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Indeed you did... I must have misinterpreted it. Sorry about that...
Then you say they were smarter than we are now. Like I said, they knew about their environment, like we know about ours. We keep adapting to new things... back then, new things were not that common... Think about it in terms of natural selection. Technology allows more and dumber people to survive and reproduce. It also allows people to score and not reproduce. If those people tend to be the more intelligent ones, that's another blow to average fitness.
Not that I think of it only in those terms, but those might make sense to you.
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