(November 15, 2012 at 6:37 am)Darnem Wrote: No one here has answered my original question yet.
I answered you now answer mine.
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Questions For You Non Believers
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 I answered you now answer mine.  RE: Questions For You Non Believers
November 15, 2012 at 4:20 pm
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2012 at 4:21 pm by Simon Moon.)
(November 15, 2012 at 6:37 am)Darnem Wrote: No one here has answered my original question yet. I'll answer. Quote:Why do you push your religion of Atheism on others when there is no evidence that God doesn't exist? To begin with, atheism is not a religion. There are 450,000 churches in the US. There are about 30 major Christian TV networks in the US. Who knows how many Christian radio stations? There are over 3000 Christian schools. When was the last time an atheist came to your door in an attempt to deconvert you? Atheists have time on a couple of Public Access cable stations. Some time on a few radio stations. A couple of organizations who's main purpose is to try to keep Church and State separate, not to 'spread atheism'. You came to an atheist forum, we didn't come to you. Who's pushing what on who?  The second part of your question, " there is no evidence that God doesn't exist", is completely flawed, as some of us tried to explain to you. Theists are the ones making the claim that a god exists. It is not up to us to disprove your claim. You are trying to shift the burden of proof, which is a logic 101 FAIL. To simplify it even further, at its most basic, atheism is the response, "I don't believe your claim that a god exists. Please provide me with demonstrable evidence and reasoned argument to support it". There, I fed the hit and run troll again. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. 
Nice to see what a mature bunch of "freethinkers" this is "he's trolling, he's trolling". Oh like they don't attack Christianity in every thread, and thrall out personal insults - but something as simple as asking why they push their agenda gets them all worked up! LOL
RE: Questions For You Non Believers
November 15, 2012 at 4:42 pm
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2012 at 4:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Perhaps you can give us an example of atheists "pushing their agenda" Daniel?
(which agenda is it we're pushing..btw..just so I have the right posters out..the right buttons on my lapel...)
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 (November 15, 2012 at 4:40 pm)Daniel Wrote: Nice to see what a mature bunch of "freethinkers" this is "he's trolling, he's trolling". Oh like they don't attack Christianity in every thread, and thrall out personal insults - but something as simple as asking why they push their agenda gets them all worked up! LOL Is that your exact view or just an approximation of it?
You were simply asked by the OP why you push your agenda, I'm not interested in giving examples I'm just pointing out that being asked why you push it gets you guys all worked up!
 (November 15, 2012 at 4:40 pm)Daniel Wrote: Nice to see what a mature bunch of "freethinkers" this is "he's trolling, he's trolling". Oh like they don't attack Christianity in every thread, and thrall out personal insults - but something as simple as asking why they push their agenda gets them all worked up! LOLWe actually like to think better of the human race. We like to think people aren't actually fucking retarded and underwhelmingly ignorant enough to assert atheism, the lack of belief in god or gods, is somehow a faith-based position and now a religion just because some idiot says so. So, when somebody makes baseless and erroneous assertions like that, we automatically deem them to be a troll until proven stupid. RE: Questions For You Non Believers
November 15, 2012 at 5:06 pm
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2012 at 5:07 pm by Simon Moon.)
(November 15, 2012 at 4:40 pm)Daniel Wrote: Nice to see what a mature bunch of "freethinkers" this is "he's trolling, he's trolling". Oh like they don't attack Christianity in every thread, and thrall out personal insults - but something as simple as asking why they push their agenda gets them all worked up! LOL Troll or ignorant, you pick. Signs of a troll on an atheist forum: 1. Using an upper case 'A' for atheism. 2. Claiming atheism is a religion. 3. Claiming atheists are pushing an agenenda. 4. Shifting the burden of proof for the existence of a god. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. RE: Questions For You Non Believers
November 15, 2012 at 5:08 pm
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2012 at 5:09 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 15, 2012 at 4:46 pm)Daniel Wrote: You were simply asked by the OP why you push your agenda, I'm not interested in giving examples I'm just pointing out that being asked why you push it gets you guys all worked up! You mean you wouldn't get worked up if someone claimed you were pushing an agenda when you weren't? If they were the 100th person to make this claim in recent memory? Hmn...... You, like the OP, aren't interested in presenting examples of this..it's more important to just say something. I get it..I get alot of it recently. It works me up.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (November 15, 2012 at 4:40 pm)Daniel Wrote: Nice to see what a mature bunch of "freethinkers" this is "he's trolling, he's trolling". Oh like they don't attack Christianity in every thread, and thrall out personal insults - but something as simple as asking why they push their agenda gets them all worked up! LOL Oh here we go, it's christian victim time. 1. He's either trolling or that fucking cloistered he needs a good smack into reality. 2. We don't attack christianity in every thread, but guess what dipshit, see what it says at the top of the page?? "ATHEIST FORUMS". Yeah, funnily enough the majority of us here are atheists. Fucking unbelievable right? How peculiar we have something to say when ignoramuses like you come along to spout your gospel crap. 3. The OP didn't just ask a question, he was simultaneously ignorant, pedantic and offensive. First he mistook atheism for a religion, which is ignorant. He then tarred every atheist with the same brush by saying we push our atheism on people (whilst also being a massive fucking hypocrite for being here in the first place), and then went on to imply we should be able to prove a negative. Now in my mind, this kind of fuckwittery is one of two things. Trolling. Or one dumbshit who needs a slap for being so ignorant. Now, Danny boy, if you don't bloody like it, you know what you can do. |
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