Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?

[Drich]

...And you know this because when you hear a 'spirit' it is you? When did you become the bench mark of everything in all of Creation? How do you know the universe does not extend beyond what you and people like you understand it to be and set limits on? Do you often claim the "Earth is flat" much? Same principle. The reason people believed the earth was flat was because they were using their current understandings as the benchmark for the whole of Creation. Different variables, same mentality.

*input error* *explain creation*

http://atheistforums.org/thread-14190.html

[Ryantology]

How do you know the universe does not extend beyond what you and people like you understand it to be and set limits on? Do you often claim the "Earth is flat" much? Same principle.

Such unbridled absurdity. Those are two entirely different principles.

To claim that the universe has facets beyond which we understand is bad enough, because you can show no evidence of this, but you further claim that the universe definitely does have facets beyond which we understand and you insist that you do access it, that your specific ideal of God resides in it, that you understand his will and that you enact that will accurately.

Appealing to an imaginary extra-universal plane of existence only weakens your position because even if you convinced us that the conditions necessary for God's existence were possible (in this case, the existence of extraplanar domains in which sentient beings reside by means unfathomable to us), you would weaken the credibility of Yahweh by making the possibility of his existence as equally-likely as all other deities, gods, demigods, demons, angels, monsters, ghosts, known, unknown or (to be completely fair) imaginable... which is just as problematic because Yahweh insists that he is the only true God, and it would now have to be proven that his story is more credible than any other of a thousand competing creation myths. You think you escape the noose of the appeal to infinitesimal odds only to find Yahweh crowded out both by the number of competitors and his (unprovable) insistence that he is the highest and singular superior to everything in the universe, that no real advantage to you results because you are, in fact, appealing to even longer odds than ever.

[Norfolk And Chance]

That's sad. Because it sounds like you have invested more time with your dog than you have with trying to reach out to God.

How is it sad? His dog is real, and probably cuddly and furry. I'd bet his dog is loyal and reciprocates the attention given to it.

Whereas, god is non existent as far as any rational person could tell.

Why spend more time giving attention to a figment of your imagination than real flesh and blood? You fucking moron.

[Kousbroek]

*input error* *explain creation*

http://atheistforums.org/thread-14190.html

Stop proving to me that you are a total nutjob, that is more than obvious.

You prefer your dumbass theistic nonsense over science that is clear.
Good for you .. makes you look real smart ...

[Drich]

That is why Christ Gave us..spiritual gifts does make sense....

...For everything 'revealed' has already been written down in the bible...

....Divine guidance...'

Dude i don't know what you've been smoking, but i definitely want some of that stuff ...

It looks like the stuff you are already on is doing a pretty good job if all you could get out of what i wrote is what you highlighted.

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Such unbridled absurdity. Those are two entirely different principles.

No they are not. You speak in absolutes, and they Spoke in absolutes. You believe this generation has all the answers, and they believed the same about theirs. Given enough time everything they knew to be true about the world was eventually dismissed, and given the ever changing nature of 'science' the same will be true about what you Think you know now. Yet both of you speak/spoke as if you were speaking about an absolute truth, when at best you repersent the current popular variable.
How long did we have a hole in the Ozone caused by CFC's before we found out it was natually occouring?

How long was pluto a Planet, before it wasn't?

How long were we looking at a Mini Ice age, before Global warming took it's place? How long did we have Global warming till that was proven inaccurate, and it was changed to Global climate change?

In each one of these orginal Scientific 'facts' is the oppertunity to "repersent the Earth as being flat." Or speak of an absolute when only repersent the current most popular theory or variable. The same is true now with you 'lack of proof of God.' Because unless you know what you are looking for in the way of 'proof' you will never find it. Not that God does not offer 'proof' he is just not in the business of providing it in such a way as to Force belief to those who refuse to believe.

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That's sad. Because it sounds like you have invested more time with your dog than you have with trying to reach out to God.

How is it sad? His dog is real, and probably cuddly and furry. I'd bet his dog is loyal and reciprocates the attention given to it.

Whereas, god is non existent as far as any rational person could tell.

Why spend more time giving attention to a figment of your imagination than real flesh and blood? You fucking moron.

It's sad because when a person only invests in relationship they get an imediate pay back on, it limits their growth. What makes it sader if this is all this person looks to establish in the foundation of a given relationship then it will be next to impossiable for him to want to experience anything deeper.

[Kousbroek]

How long did we have Global warming till that was proven inaccurate, and it was changed to Global climate change?

Bull .. 2 different things... your way of thinking is inaccurate ..

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/scien...index.html

In each one of these orginal Scientific 'facts' is the oppertunity to "repersent the Earth as being flat." Or speak of an absolute when only repersent the current most popular theory or variable. The same is true now with you 'lack of proof of God.' Because unless you know what you are looking for in the way of 'proof' you will never find it. Not that God does not offer 'proof' he is just not in the business of providing it in such a way as to Force belief to those who refuse to believe.

The fact that you're a flat out liar doesn't even bother me that much, but the way you seem to 'battle' science and scientists with absurd remarks is so way beyond stupid that it isn't even funny anymore.

[Drich]

Bull .. 2 different things... your way of thinking is inaccurate ..

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/scien...index.html

Red herring. I orginally identified "global cooling" or the threat of a "Mini Ice age" that was first (In the Late 70's) incarnation of "the earth was flat/the sky is falling science." Then showed the progression or name changes that this "earth is flat/sky is falling" belief has undergone to maintain the need for this multi trillion dollar Energy indurstry 'science' to continue on. Truth is our climate has never been stable, and someone has figured out how to cash in on it. Where it paralells "the Earth is flat" mentality is when people like you take what is known, (Even in light of all of the changes made to this doctrine) and persecute or generally abhore anyone who does not share your "The Earth is flat" Philosphy.

This is the SAME thing The Same Opposition the Same simple minded thinking people per Columbus encountered.

What is the alternitive? Simply don't get suckered into drinking the Flav-o-Aide, by limiting your understanding of what is being offered by the general population in the way of an understanding. Do your own reasearch. (Stay away from predigested commentaries geared toward the masses)

The fact that you're a flat out liar doesn't even bother me that much, but the way you seem to 'battle' science and scientists with absurd remarks is so way beyond stupid that it isn't even funny anymore.

So you don't like it when someone pokes fun at where you put all of your FAITH?

[Darkstar]

The fact that you're a flat out liar doesn't even bother me that much, but the way you seem to 'battle' science and scientists with absurd remarks is so way beyond stupid that it isn't even funny anymore.

So you don't like it when someone pokes fun at where you put all of your FAITH?

Science is constantly reinterpreting and improving its answers. Religion never does; it has stuck with the same stone age ideas forever. I find it funny that you say something to the effect of 'well, so what if we haven't proven it yet, god could exist', thereby admitting that your arguments have been running on empty since the beginning.

Like I have said before: Science works. Religion doesn't. End of story. Scientific advancements aren't made by divine revelation. People have 'faith' in science becasue it works. You have blind faith in religion because you won't admit that it doesn't.

[Kousbroek]

So you don't like it when someone pokes fun at where you put all of your FAITH?

You really don't get it do you, are you really this thick ?

Not believing in your god doesn't mean that one puts his 'belief' somewhere else, another absurd statement that only shows how dumb you are.
Since when did science became a belief or an absolute truth ?

You don't seem to realize that your theistic bullshit is futile to me, it is all man made nonsense that only leads to immoral behavior, dangerous thoughts and it is a direct threat to the values of any self respecting modern society.

[Drich]

So you don't like it when someone pokes fun at where you put all of your FAITH?

Science is constantly reinterpreting and improving its answers. Religion never does; it has stuck with the same stone age ideas forever. I find it funny that you say something to the effect of 'well, so what if we haven't proven it yet, god could exist', thereby admitting that your arguments have been running on empty since the beginning.

Like I have said before: Science works. Religion doesn't. End of story. Scientific advancements aren't made by divine revelation. People have 'faith' in science becasue it works. You have blind faith in religion because you won't admit that it doesn't.

You have made my point for me. In that Science IS Ever Re inventing itself. It is always changing. So where does Faith come in? It Takes Faith to believe that the current theory (Fill in the blank) is an accurate one (not in relation to the evidence, because all are in relation the the evidence avaiable) You have faith in the fact that you have enough evidence to repersent actual truth. Truth does not change. Truth is foundational. (That is why god has not changed in turn why religion has not changed) Very little Faith is not needed to acknoweledge truth. (Christ said a mustard seeds worth of faith) However Great Faith is needed to acknoweledge an unknown. The fact that science changes all of the time makes it's content an unknown. Which requires Faith. The more the change the Larger the faith needed to blindly accept the latest and greatest theory.

That is why Faith in Science is still Faith!