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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 5:31 am
This maybe a late reply but:
Firstly, eye witness testimony is unreliable as details can get warped and mixed up, especially over time and considering in order to get these accounts down it would have take months of a scholars time (as only about 4% (correct me if I am wrong) at that time could read or write) the account could have been warped over time, and eye witness testimony is contested for use in courts even today.
Secondly, in order to get a copy of the Bible in those times a scholar would have had to write out the whole book out from scratch from beginning to end (it was a full time job) and was highly susceptible to Chinese whispers effect were the original said 1 thing but the copy may have been slightly different either though miss reading or deliberate change and when translated the change of being miss interpreted is even greater as you have to take into cultural language norms into account and there grammar, is was not a straight copy and even for a text that size there was a high chance of mistakes, misinterpretation and deliberate change to suit the scholar.
Thirdly, the language were Jesus was supposedly born was (and he spoke) Aramaic and is very difficult even today to translate into ancient Greek (the language of the first bibles) because of the many differences between words and grammar and stricter between the two languages so many things could have been mistranslated when put in Greek.
Lastly, It is now contested that the town of Nazareth (were Jesus was supposedly born) did not exist until 4 CE/AD, 400 years after his supposed death. And what might have been there was in fact at most a small sentiment of about 7 farming families at most.
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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 5:47 am
(December 1, 2012 at 5:25 am)The truth Wrote: I'm threw atheist I thought this forum would challenge me but I was wrong. I'm on to the next atheist forum. I had a lot of fun. One Christian destroyed an entire athiest forum
a bit of advise the next time you debate with a christian please show more historical facts and not your opinions. But on a more serious tip god bless you I hope you come to the truth one day before it's to late. Jesus saves!! The truth!!!!
Yet another one claiming victory when every point he tried to make was crushed.
Its getting repetitious.
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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 5:53 am
(December 1, 2012 at 5:47 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (December 1, 2012 at 5:25 am)The truth Wrote: I'm threw atheist I thought this forum would challenge me but I was wrong. I'm on to the next atheist forum. I had a lot of fun. One Christian destroyed an entire athiest forum a bit of advise the next time you debate with a christian please show more historical facts and not your opinions. But on a more serious tip god bless you I hope you come to the truth one day before it's to late. Jesus saves!! The truth!!!!
Yet another one claiming victory when every point he tried to make was crushed.
Its getting repetitious.
Its not a debate, its sport.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
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Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 11:40 am
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2012 at 11:40 am by Faith No More.)
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