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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 3, 2012 at 8:29 pm
(December 3, 2012 at 4:35 pm)The realest Wrote: I don't have a position worth defending? Here's a defending answer: Nothing never creates something. Just look around you, and everything thing you see was created by something. Can you disprove this? We both know the answer.
That's an argument from ignorance. We don't have any examples of something coming from nothing, because we don't have any examples of absolute nothingness. All we have is a lot of somethings turning into other somethings.
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 3, 2012 at 10:25 pm
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(December 3, 2012 at 8:12 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: (December 3, 2012 at 5:56 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Um...excuse me but it is you jesus freak asswipes who think your silly 'god' poofed everything into existence.
Abso-bloody-lutely Min. Their hypocrisy boils my piss more and more each day. Think I need to take a time out for a few days to calm back down!
Don't get mad N&C - get even. I think that hypocrisy is why I love shitting all over them and their fucking religions.
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 3, 2012 at 10:44 pm
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(December 3, 2012 at 5:49 pm)The realest Wrote: Do you honestly believe that something can be created from nothing? You atheists amazes me every time.
Great, since you obviously believe that something can't be created from nothing, you have a few choices.
1. God is eternal. (In which case the universe might as well be eternal, negating the need for a god.)
2. God was created out of nothing. (But you just said that's impossible, so you really just have the first one.)
3. God is neither eternal nor created. (This is a contradiction of terms, and if you say it, a black hole will eat the universe. Sort of like what happens when you divide by 0.)
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 4, 2012 at 6:57 am
Quote:Um? the Quantum model that Krauss states in his pathetic book is a playful meaning of the word "nothing."
"Nothing" doesn't exist. It's a negative concept that we cannot even define.
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 4, 2012 at 8:19 am
(December 4, 2012 at 6:57 am)Kirbmarc Wrote: Quote:Um? the Quantum model that Krauss states in his pathetic book is a playful meaning of the word "nothing."
"Nothing" doesn't exist. It's a negative concept that we cannot even define.
It's possible to define it, but it's not something we can empirically examine.
Sorry to pick nits ...
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 4, 2012 at 8:26 am
Quote:It's possible to define it,
True. I should have put it better. It's impossible to define if not in negative terms (abscence of anything), so it's not a concept, but the abscence of every concept.
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 4, 2012 at 9:06 am
(December 4, 2012 at 8:26 am)Kirbmarc Wrote: Quote:It's possible to define it,
True. I should have put it better. It's impossible to define if not in negative terms (absence of anything), so it's not a concept, but the absence of every concept.
Exactly ... I think. 
The important point is that we don't have much in the way of empirical evidence from which to meaningfully discuss what a "nothing" would actually be. So, saying "nothing can't produce something" is an absolutely meaningless argument, because we don't have a nothing to examine.
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 7, 2012 at 11:28 am
(December 3, 2012 at 4:29 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: WTF? First "The truth." Now we have "The challenger" and this guy "The realest" all labeled "Christian" and sounding stupid.
And now we have the real reason for all the "challenging" around here!
There is nothing any Christian can say to you non-believers that would give us even an ounce of respect.
And its humorous that some of you people of non-faith still say God kills babies!
What kind of argument is that? There is "no god" in your view...so only people kill babies. Who are you trying to convince?!
God gives and takes what is His! PERIOD
How do you explain Christian Faith to anyone who refuses to hear?
All this amounts to is a dick waving match where nothing gets accomplished...except more contempt for each side.
There is no rationalization of anything but ones own pov here...which is usually in the form of insults and ridicule. And this happens on both sides...because of being provoked.
It's like a bubbling calderon of shit around here with lumps surfacing about the place!
We may be Christians, but also human. You can only take so much negativity before being negative yourself.
And "we" as Christians must be held to a higher standard. Again humorous...because you have no moral compass...EXCEPT where "we" are concerned!
But TRUTH prevails! YOU ARE RIGHT!! We are held to a higher standard. And even you, in your non-believing nature must profess the thruth in Christ! This is amazing actually!!
Our promise is guaranteed because of our faith in Jesus! And in the last day: "Every knee shall bend, and every lip proclaim Jesus Lord."
Luke 18:8 I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 7, 2012 at 11:49 am
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(December 7, 2012 at 11:28 am)ronedee Wrote: And now we have the real reason for all the "challenging" around here!
There is nothing any Christian can say to you non-believers that would give us even an ounce of respect. Categorically untrue. If you roundly stated that you found the doctrine of vicarious redemption via blood sacrifice abhorrent, I'd respect the hell out of you.
Quote:And its humorous that some of you people of non-faith still say God kills babies!
What kind of argument is that? There is "no god" in your view...so only people kill babies. Who are you trying to convince?!
Feel free to correct me, but murder, last I checked, wasn't the leading cause of death in infancy or childhood.
Quote:God gives and takes what is His! PERIOD
Like babies lives?
Quote:How do you explain Christian Faith to anyone who refuses to hear?
All this amounts to is a dick waving match where nothing gets accomplished...except more contempt for each side.
There is no rationalization of anything but ones own pov here...which is usually in the form of insults and ridicule. And this happens on both sides...because of being provoked.
It's like a bubbling calderon of shit around here with lumps surfacing about the place!
We may be Christians, but also human. You can only take so much negativity before being negative yourself.
A questionable statement, but okay...you're humans, in that you have dicks to wave etc.....
Quote:And "we" as Christians must be held to a higher standard. Again humorous...because you have no moral compass...EXCEPT where "we" are concerned!
Bzzzt, wrong again, my moral compass came factory standard, so I don't need your loaner...that's all.
Quote:But TRUTH prevails! YOU ARE RIGHT!! We are held to a higher standard. And even you, in your non-believing nature must profess the thruth in Christ! This is amazing actually!!
Actually, what I'd "profess" is your inability to adhere to an arbitrary standard that you have set for yourself.
Quote:Our promise is guaranteed because of our faith in Jesus! And in the last day: "Every knee shall bend, and every lip proclaim Jesus Lord."
Luke 18:8 I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"
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RE: What one thing would disprove Christianity to you?
December 7, 2012 at 11:50 am
Quote:There is nothing any Christian can say to you non-believers that would give us even an ounce of respect.
You COULD stop butt-fucking children and covering it up. That might be a good start.
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