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(December 13, 2012 at 10:28 am)A Theist Wrote: That's just absolutely false...and it's an ignorant thing to say, even for you TJ....are you discounting the racism within your own party? ....are you discounting that 93% of blacks voted for Barack?...that's a huge percentage to not discount that race played a role in their vote...only a small handful of Conservative and Christian Blacks voted for Republicans....
Racists are rarely clear on what the word means. If blacks are racist for voting for a black person, does that make you racist for voting for a white person? You can do better than this.
(December 13, 2012 at 10:28 am)A Theist Wrote: That's just absolutely false...and it's an ignorant thing to say, even for you TJ....are you discounting the racism within your own party? ....are you discounting that 93% of blacks voted for Barack?...that's a huge percentage to not discount that race played a role in their vote...only a small handful of Conservative and Christian Blacks voted for Republicans....
Racists are rarely clear on what the word means. If blacks are racist for voting for a black person, does that make you racist for voting for a white person? You can do better than this.
What are you talking about?!....that's not the point I was making....You on the leftist fringe tried to argue that racists vote Republican....I refuted that argument, pointing out that racism exist's on the Democrat side and that the left are racists....I clearly proved that when I was challenged to give examples of racism from the left....
" We've provided plenty of examples of blatent racsm from the right..."...you haven't shown anything except a few isolated instances....that's no proof the Republican Party is racist.
"...so why don't you show us an example of racism from the left?....
Quote:"U.S. Rep. Benjamin L. Cardin yesterday pledged not to use racially tinged attacks in his campaign for U.S. Senate but stopped short of repudiating fellow Maryland Democrats who have said such tactics are acceptable against Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele because he is a black conservative Republican....Delegate Salima Siler Marriott, a black Baltimore Democrat, said Mr. Steele invites racially charged criticism — including labels such as “Oreo cookie” and “Uncle Tom” — because his conservative philosophy is anti-black, in her opinion."....
Quote:"One of the things about Herman Cain is, I think that he makes that white Republican base of the party feel okay, feel like they are not racist because they can like this guy," Finney said. "I think he giving that base a free pass. And I think they like him because they think he's a black man who knows his place. I know that's harsh, but that's how it sure seems to me."....
Quote:"Condoleezza Rice is the purest expression of the race traitor. No polite description is possible." Those kinds of attacks by blacks have emboldened guilt-ridden white liberals to join in as seen by the recent cartoons of Pat Oliphant and Garry Trudeau ("Doonesbury")....
One study has shown that some racism is pretty much divided evenly among both parties...
Quote:"It is true that there are more differences across party lines on policy questions such as on affirmative action, again with a mix in both parties but with more Republicans than Democrats opposing. I don’t consider these types of policy preferences to be grounds for calling someone a racist, however.
It is undeniable that some Americans are racist but racists split about evenly across the parties. No party has a monopoly on racists." http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalre...party.html
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"
Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
December 13, 2012 at 5:07 pm (This post was last modified: December 13, 2012 at 5:09 pm by Whateverist.)
(December 13, 2012 at 4:43 pm)A Theist Wrote: What are you talking about?!....that's not the point I was making....You on the leftist fringe tried to argue that racists vote Republican....I refuted that argument, pointing out that racism exist's on the Democrat side and that the left are racists....I clearly proved that when I was challenged to give examples of racism from the left....
" We've provided plenty of examples of blatent racsm from the right..."...you haven't shown anything except a few isolated instances....that's no proof the Republican Party is racist.
"...so why don't you show us an example of racism from the left?....
Quote:"U.S. Rep. Benjamin L. Cardin yesterday pledged not to use racially tinged attacks in his campaign for U.S. Senate but stopped short of repudiating fellow Maryland Democrats who have said such tactics are acceptable against Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele because he is a black conservative Republican....Delegate Salima Siler Marriott, a black Baltimore Democrat, said Mr. Steele invites racially charged criticism — including labels such as “Oreo cookie” and “Uncle Tom” — because his conservative philosophy is anti-black, in her opinion."....
Quote:"One of the things about Herman Cain is, I think that he makes that white Republican base of the party feel okay, feel like they are not racist because they can like this guy," Finney said. "I think he giving that base a free pass. And I think they like him because they think he's a black man who knows his place. I know that's harsh, but that's how it sure seems to me."....
Quote:"Condoleezza Rice is the purest expression of the race traitor. No polite description is possible." Those kinds of attacks by blacks have emboldened guilt-ridden white liberals to join in as seen by the recent cartoons of Pat Oliphant and Garry Trudeau ("Doonesbury")....
One study has shown that some racism is pretty much divided evenly among both parties...
Quote:"It is true that there are more differences across party lines on policy questions such as on affirmative action, again with a mix in both parties but with more Republicans than Democrats opposing. I don’t consider these types of policy preferences to be grounds for calling someone a racist, however.
It is undeniable that some Americans are racist but racists split about evenly across the parties. No party has a monopoly on racists." http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalre...party.html
Most of your examples are of people calling certain black politician race-traitors for actions they've taken that go against the apparent best interest of the minority of which they are part. I would hardly call that racism. Clarence Thomas is a prime example of someone who wants to deny a level playing field to young black people. Whether you agree that reparations of some sort are due to the descendants of the people whose slave labor helped build the wealth of our nation, may or may not be based on racist views. But it is a completely separate question.
The mere fact that someone calls Thomas or Rice or Cain a name to indicate their disapproval of these politician's opposition to affirmative action is not an attack on them based on their race. It singles them out for acting against the perceived best interest of their race. If they were white politicians taking the same positions, they would be seen as no less selfish and unfair .. they just wouldn't be doing it to their own race.
Non-racist does not equal race blind. To claim race neutrality as your reason for not righting a historical injustice does not mean you are less racist than a person who supports affirmative action. To turn a blind eye to past injustices which underlie the advantages ones own racial group enjoys is racism. For someone of that race to do the same thing is a different kind of immoral act. To point that out is hardly racist.
(December 13, 2012 at 4:43 pm)A Theist Wrote: What are you talking about?!....that's not the point I was making....You on the leftist fringe tried to argue that racists vote Republican....I refuted that argument, pointing out that racism exist's on the Democrat side and that the left are racists....I clearly proved that when I was challenged to give examples of racism from the left....
" We've provided plenty of examples of blatent racsm from the right..."...you haven't shown anything except a few isolated instances....that's no proof the Republican Party is racist.
"...so why don't you show us an example of racism from the left?....
Quote:"U.S. Rep. Benjamin L. Cardin yesterday pledged not to use racially tinged attacks in his campaign for U.S. Senate but stopped short of repudiating fellow Maryland Democrats who have said such tactics are acceptable against Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele because he is a black conservative Republican....Delegate Salima Siler Marriott, a black Baltimore Democrat, said Mr. Steele invites racially charged criticism — including labels such as “Oreo cookie” and “Uncle Tom” — because his conservative philosophy is anti-black, in her opinion."....
Quote:"One of the things about Herman Cain is, I think that he makes that white Republican base of the party feel okay, feel like they are not racist because they can like this guy," Finney said. "I think he giving that base a free pass. And I think they like him because they think he's a black man who knows his place. I know that's harsh, but that's how it sure seems to me."....
Quote:"Condoleezza Rice is the purest expression of the race traitor. No polite description is possible." Those kinds of attacks by blacks have emboldened guilt-ridden white liberals to join in as seen by the recent cartoons of Pat Oliphant and Garry Trudeau ("Doonesbury")....
One study has shown that some racism is pretty much divided evenly among both parties...
Quote:"It is true that there are more differences across party lines on policy questions such as on affirmative action, again with a mix in both parties but with more Republicans than Democrats opposing. I don’t consider these types of policy preferences to be grounds for calling someone a racist, however.
It is undeniable that some Americans are racist but racists split about evenly across the parties. No party has a monopoly on racists." http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalre...party.html
Most of your examples are of people calling certain black politician race-traitors for actions they've taken that go against the apparent best interest of the minority of which they are part. I would hardly call that racism. Clarence Thomas is a prime example of someone who wants to deny a level playing field to young black people. Whether you agree that reparations of some sort are due to the descendants of the people whose slave labor helped build the wealth of our nation, may or may not be based on racist views. But it is a completely separate question.
The mere fact that someone calls Thomas or Rice or Cain a name to indicate their disapproval of these politician's opposition to affirmative action is not an attack on them based on their race. It singles them out for acting against the perceived best interest of their race. If they were white politicians taking the same positions, they would be seen as no less selfish and unfair .. they just wouldn't be doing it to their own race.
Non-racist does not equal race blind. To claim race neutrality as your reason for not righting a historical injustice does not mean you are less racist than a person who supports affirmative action. To turn a blind eye to past injustices which underlie the advantages ones own racial group enjoys is racism. For someone of that race to do the same thing is a different kind of immoral act. To point that out is hardly racist.
Your entire post is BS...if that would have been Republicans, black or white, making those kinds of comments you leftist fringe nuts would have screaming racism...those were racial attacks.
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"
Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
December 13, 2012 at 6:36 pm (This post was last modified: December 13, 2012 at 6:36 pm by Annik.)
A Theis Wrote:you leftist fringe nuts
A Theis Wrote:You on the leftist fringe tried to argue that racists vote Republican....I refuted that argument, pointing out that racism exist's on the Democrat side and that the left are racists....I clearly proved that when I was challenged to give examples of racism from the left....
A Theis Wrote:you leftist nut jobs have hypocrite impaired vision
A Theis Wrote:you remain a closet racist against blacks...otherwise you wouldn't feel so comfortable using the 'N' word like you have in previous posts, (no matter what context you were using it)...and why do blacks need a lily white far left fringe nut like you to hold their hand?.... all you far left nut jobs are a bunch of stuck up arrogant racist pompousasses....you leftists think you're smarter than blacks...you think you're superior to them, and that blacks need to be led around and nurtured by the lily white hands of the far left...you like to thump your chest and proclaim yourselves the champions for civil rights,..."Look everybody! I'm a white guy who hates white people! I hate my skin color! I apologize for being white!"....but you're about as racist as it gets.
A Theis Wrote:.You on the left are obsessed with race...and it's you leftist fringe nuts who's stirring the racial cauldron...from what I see of the arguments and the obsession with skin color from the leftwing, it's the racists who vote Democrat.
(December 13, 2012 at 6:31 pm)A Theist Wrote: Your entire post is BS...if that would have been Republicans, black or white, making those kinds of comments you leftist fringe nuts would have screaming racism...those were racial attacks.
Well if saying it again or louder was the least bit convincing you might have a point. But you don't. You think you know a lot. You don't.
A Theis Wrote:You on the leftist fringe tried to argue that racists vote Republican....I refuted that argument, pointing out that racism exist's on the Democrat side and that the left are racists....I clearly proved that when I was challenged to give examples of racism from the left....
A Theis Wrote:you leftist nut jobs have hypocrite impaired vision
A Theis Wrote:you remain a closet racist against blacks...otherwise you wouldn't feel so comfortable using the 'N' word like you have in previous posts, (no matter what context you were using it)...and why do blacks need a lily white far left fringe nut like you to hold their hand?.... all you far left nut jobs are a bunch of stuck up arrogant racist pompousasses....you leftists think you're smarter than blacks...you think you're superior to them, and that blacks need to be led around and nurtured by the lily white hands of the far left...you like to thump your chest and proclaim yourselves the champions for civil rights,..."Look everybody! I'm a white guy who hates white people! I hate my skin color! I apologize for being white!"....but you're about as racist as it gets.
A Theis Wrote:.You on the left are obsessed with race...and it's you leftist fringe nuts who's stirring the racial cauldron...from what I see of the arguments and the obsession with skin color from the leftwing, it's the racists who vote Democrat.
I pity you, A Theist. I really do.
Thanks, but save the pity for your own leftist friends...
Minimalist...
Quote:"White people will be buying even more guns!"
Ryantology...
Quote:"Too bad for Republicans that they didn't have the foresight to see that appealing to white racism is a tactic with an expiration date."
Dee Dee Ramone...
Quote:"Racism is the republican's subliminal message."
TaraJo...
Quote:"Not all Republicans hate black people, but if you hate black people you sure as hell vote Republican."
I guess this must've slipped your selective eye...
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"
Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.