Islam & Evolution, were we wrong ?

[Cyberman]

As you pointed out and like I was trying to point out myself, the work of these religious scientists is in spite of their religious beliefs. As a quick and dirty example, just off the top of my head, Charles Darwin came to revolutionise the field of biology despite his own religious upbringing and the common view of his day.

As for the Lattice thing, I still don't see a connection between it and evolution of any kind, theistic or otherwise. At most we'd have some basis for a deistic nature to the Universe, starring as you say aliens instead of gods.

[WinterHold]

Just an abstract comment, which was probably said 100000 times.

Most crazy muslims like me, love nature so much. They believe -the crazy muslims like me- that the proof to their holly book lies right there in the sky.
And also in the cherry blossom, why do people just don't look ?



I guess, most of our debates take part between zombies & beings full of emotions.
Visit japan. It has the best cherry trees ever, and of course : the best blossoms.

Maybe then you'll see an evidence, which might make my topic "a little bit" readable for atheists.

[Cyberman]

I've a sneaking suspicion the cherry blossoms, if asked the purpose for their being, would have a different perspective.

[Angrboda]

There is one small piece of possible evidence for theistic evolution the human body seems to correspond neatly to the ratio of phi. Though you will see the same thing in other plants and animals to some extent along with much of what you see in the universe in general.



...And from that you get you come to the conclusion that Jesus is Lord.

Do you even lift?

In the extracted portion of your diagram, on the right, b is equal to the full length of the arm, but on the left to only a portion. Yet 'a' in both diagrams is the same. Since b1 <> b2, yet a1 = a2, it is mathematically impossible for b1/a1 = b2/a2 = 1,618....

[Kayenneh]

Just an abstract comment, which was probably said 100000 times.

Most crazy muslims like me, love nature so much. They believe -the crazy muslims like me- that the proof to their holly book lies right there in the sky.
And also in the cherry blossom, why do people just don't look ?



I guess, most of our debates take part between zombies & beings full of emotions.
Visit japan. It has the best cherry trees ever, and of course : the best blossoms.

Maybe then you'll see an evidence, which might make my topic "a little bit" readable for atheists.

It might be that I didn't quite understand you, but don't ever assume that an atheist can't appreciate nature. Understanding the 'secrets' of nature doesn't make it any less fantastic (have you ever watched 'Planet Earth' or 'Life'?). But still, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, it still doesn't prove your point. Have you ever thought of why the sakura is shaped the way it is, why it has the color, why it blossoms at a particular time and so forth? When you've answered those questions, maybe you'll understand a little bit better.

(And yes, going to Japan during the hanami is on my to-do list.)

[KichigaiNeko]

[Kayenneh]

April this year Kayenneh??

Oh, I wish.. Unfortunately I would have to actually save some money for a couple of years to be able to go.. '-_-

[Kane]

2-Humans were successors to a savage race of creations, killers (mostly animals, since the angeles thought that the new creation is also "going to shed blood & corrupt the land".

You haven't heard about the theory of the Jin haven't you ?

[Zone]

[Confused Ape]