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Islam & Evolution, were we wrong ?
#41
RE: Islam & Evolution, were we wrong ?
As you pointed out and like I was trying to point out myself, the work of these religious scientists is in spite of their religious beliefs. As a quick and dirty example, just off the top of my head, Charles Darwin came to revolutionise the field of biology despite his own religious upbringing and the common view of his day.

As for the Lattice thing, I still don't see a connection between it and evolution of any kind, theistic or otherwise. At most we'd have some basis for a deistic nature to the Universe, starring as you say aliens instead of gods.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#42
RE: Islam & Evolution, were we wrong ?
Just an abstract comment, which was probably said 100000 times.

Most crazy muslims like me, love nature so much. They believe -the crazy muslims like me- that the proof to their holly book lies right there in the sky.
And also in the cherry blossom, why do people just don't look ?

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I guess, most of our debates take part between zombies & beings full of emotions.
Visit japan. It has the best cherry trees ever, and of course : the best blossoms.

Maybe then you'll see an evidence, which might make my topic "a little bit" readable for atheists.
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#43
RE: Islam & Evolution, were we wrong ?
I've a sneaking suspicion the cherry blossoms, if asked the purpose for their being, would have a different perspective.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#44
RE: Islam & Evolution, were we wrong ?
(January 29, 2013 at 6:40 pm)Zone Wrote: There is one small piece of possible evidence for theistic evolution the human body seems to correspond neatly to the ratio of phi. Though you will see the same thing in other plants and animals to some extent along with much of what you see in the universe in general.

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...And from that you get you come to the conclusion that Jesus is Lord.

Do you even lift?

In the extracted portion of your diagram, on the right, b is equal to the full length of the arm, but on the left to only a portion. Yet 'a' in both diagrams is the same. Since b1 <> b2, yet a1 = a2, it is mathematically impossible for b1/a1 = b2/a2 = 1,618....


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#45
RE: Islam & Evolution, were we wrong ?
(January 29, 2013 at 7:37 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Just an abstract comment, which was probably said 100000 times.

Most crazy muslims like me, love nature so much. They believe -the crazy muslims like me- that the proof to their holly book lies right there in the sky.
And also in the cherry blossom, why do people just don't look ?

[Image: Cherry-Blossom-festival-washington-dc-.jpg]

I guess, most of our debates take part between zombies & beings full of emotions.
Visit japan. It has the best cherry trees ever, and of course : the best blossoms.

Maybe then you'll see an evidence, which might make my topic "a little bit" readable for atheists.

It might be that I didn't quite understand you, but don't ever assume that an atheist can't appreciate nature. Understanding the 'secrets' of nature doesn't make it any less fantastic (have you ever watched 'Planet Earth' or 'Life'?). But still, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, it still doesn't prove your point. Have you ever thought of why the sakura is shaped the way it is, why it has the color, why it blossoms at a particular time and so forth? When you've answered those questions, maybe you'll understand a little bit better.

(And yes, going to Japan during the hanami is on my to-do list.)
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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#46
RE: Islam & Evolution, were we wrong ?
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#47
RE: Islam & Evolution, were we wrong ?
(January 30, 2013 at 1:48 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: April this year Kayenneh??

Oh, I wish.. Unfortunately I would have to actually save some money for a couple of years to be able to go.. '-_-
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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#48
RE: Islam & Evolution, were we wrong ?
Quote:2-Humans were successors to a savage race of creations, killers (mostly animals, since the angeles thought that the new creation is also "going to shed blood & corrupt the land".

You haven't heard about the theory of the Jin haven't you ?
You're a Drop in The Rain ... Just a Number not a Name
and You won't see It ... You don't believe It
at The End of The Day ... You're a Needle in The Hay
You signed and sealed It ... and Now You gotta deal with It
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RE: Islam & Evolution, were we wrong ?
Badger Badger Badger Badger Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?
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