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Why do christians ever convert to islam?
#21
RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
I wouldn't make this a label thing. Humans switch religions and political parties and positions in every direction all the time. I'd consider most of the switches more of an emotional appeal seeing the outsider as the victim and converting as a result of empathy for the outsider.

Why do Muslims become Christians? Same thing. It is a species issue not a label issue and the factors that go into the switches of positions are human, not god related.
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#22
RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
(March 4, 2013 at 12:19 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I wouldn't make this a label thing. Humans switch religions and political parties and positions in every direction all the time. I'd consider most of the switches more of an emotional appeal seeing the outsider as the victim and converting as a result of empathy for the outsider.

Why do Muslims become Christians? Same thing. It is a species issue not a label issue and the factors that go into the switches of positions are human, not god related.

This is probably a factor but I think the structure Islam provides in a person's life is a bigger factor.
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#23
RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
Ask a Christian: "Because they never were truly Christians to begin with."

Ask a Muslim: "Because they recognize the truth when they see it."

Ask an atheist: "Being brain dead, they don't know what to believe."

Ask an agnostic: "Don't know. Don't care."
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#24
RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
(March 4, 2013 at 12:28 pm)whateverist Wrote: Ask a Christian: "Because they never were truly Christians to begin with."

Ask a Muslim: "Because they recognize the truth when they see it."

Ask an atheist: "Being brain dead, they don't know what to believe."

Ask an agnostic: "Don't know. Don't care."

No such thing as an "agnostic". You should know that having been on this board as long as you have.

Oh and you should care because believers of all stripes vote and run governments and want to implement their religious laws on the rest of us. Only a fool ignores pulpit politics.
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#25
RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
(March 4, 2013 at 12:34 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No such thing as an "agnostic". You should know that having been on this board as long as you have.

Oh and you should care because believers of all stripes vote and run governments and want to implement their religious laws on the rest of us. Only a fool ignores pulpit politics.

How do you do, Brian? I'm whateverist and I'm an agnostic. I hear you don't believe in me. I'd like to help you with that.
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#26
RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
(March 4, 2013 at 12:05 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think the reason people follow Islam is the psychological appeal it has on many levels but they aren't aware of it.
Thanks you are really have some good readings about Islam

Quote:Quran and Sunnah is said to contain everything needed by humanity. Modern issues like healthcare, drugs, etc, have shown that Islam didn't cover all things, but never the less, this is what people believe.
Can you give examples?


Quote:Now this is not a rational reason to convert to Islam, but the Quran emphasizes that it's unique, and it seems if it challenged all of humanity to bring something like the Quran, then humanity ought to be have been able to.
for over 1,400 years nobody was able to bring something similar!

Quote:At any rate, while these are not "logical" reasons to convert to Islam, they are not "illogical" as well.
I'll give you a full logical proof of Islam.
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#27
RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
Health care - should it be free (payed by taxes but free to the public) or should people have to pay for services.

Drugs - what should be the punishment for selling drugs?

Copyright - nothing about it in Islam but society needs it to function. What should the punishment be for infringing on copy rights?

Traffic rules - what should be the punishment for breaking traffic rules? What traffic rules should exist?
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#28
RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
(March 5, 2013 at 3:37 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I'll give you a full logical proof of Islam.

I can also give a full proof of Santa Clause, which may have more followers than Islam (even non-Christian children know and delight in his existance).

Notice I left out "logical"! Because since you cannot provide a logical argument for the existance of a God as defined by your writings (an emotionally disturbed one), one certainly cannot logically show why a book that makes a logical argument for killing (killing in the name of God - 9/11 as one example) is holy.
“I've done everything the Bible says — even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!"— Ned Flanders
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#29
RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
(March 5, 2013 at 3:45 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Health care - should it be free (payed by taxes but free to the public) or should people have to pay for services.
Health care insurance is forbidden in Islam!
People should pay for the service
If they cannot the government should support them from Zakat
(All Muslim are ordered to pay 2.5% of their wealth every year for charity)
if the government is rich enough they can pay for part or the full service (but it is not mandatory)

Quote:Drugs - what should be the punishment for selling drugs?
It is normally 40 Lashes
Put if it is on a very large scale, punishments can go up to execution

Quote:Copyright - nothing about it in Islam but society needs it to function. What should the punishment be for infringing on copy rights?
it is left for the judge depending on the harm done

Quote:Traffic rules - what should be the punishment for breaking traffic rules? What traffic rules should exist?
Left for the ruling system to put rules

Islam set up some general rules (like protect humans, properties, honor, etc.)
then put some exceptions or specific rules for certain issues

If a new issue is not in the specific rules it must fell below the general rules
That is why Islam covers everything
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#30
RE: Why do christians ever convert to islam?
I can do ful logical proof of Ceiling Cat and maybe Flying Spaghetti monster.

Dodgy Just as valid as yaweh/ allah/ jesus
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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