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RE: What is your alternative to abortion?
April 2, 2013 at 6:22 pm
(April 2, 2013 at 5:57 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: but the fertilized egg does not a human make Wait wait... :p
Quote: and not all fertilized eggs will become babies due to e.g. miscarriage.
Indeed. Sometimes artificial termination is justified too
Quote:Quote:It's individuality already established.
On this I cannot quite agree. Though one's genetic heritage has a lot to do with the person, I still say that without environment one cannot say what individual lies within the code.
Environment adds to the mix. Individuality is pre baked 
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RE: What is your alternative to abortion?
April 3, 2013 at 3:12 am
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(April 2, 2013 at 8:32 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: Instead of justifying my possition on the matter and explain.
I would like to know from the religious folk some things:
Which messures to avoid unwanted pregancies would you aprove off?
The eating of bananas. No pregnancy could survive such evil.
Quote:Which messures to prevent single mums from drifting into poverty would you aprove of?
The sale of bananas. Damn things seem to sell themselves... and there's more every damn time you look!
Quote:Which mesures to prevent teen preagnacies would you aprove of?
The wearing of banana slippers. Figure: if they don't make it to the bedroom, they're probably not going to be able to have pregnancy-causing sex without me knowing about it.
Quote:Which messures to avoid parents from drifting into poverty would you aprove of?
Whatever one mom can do: two can do better! Two can do anything better than one.
No they can't!
Yes they can!
No they can't!
Yes they cannnnnnnn~!
Quote:Which messures to ensure that a child does not become a burden on the mothers carreer and life would you aprove of?
Banana Day Care. If they can watch your car keys so well, why not let them watch your kids? Hell, if they hide them: they'll be doing you a favor this time.
Quote:Which messures for unwanted preagnancies would you aprove of?
Bananabortion! Where the child is taken from the womb and put in a banana peel to be transported to someone else's womb. If the banana doesn't eat it first... but in any case: the problem solves itself!
Quote:And finaly: at which age is it alright to watch a person die or kill a person?
At all ages is it alright to watch a person die. At all ages is it alright to kill a person. Why? It's not as though you would have taken our posts seriously anyway.
(April 2, 2013 at 5:57 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Yes, there is a distinct difference in my ind too, but the fertilized egg does not a human make, and not all fertilized eggs will become babies due to e.g. miscarriage.
However, a fertilized egg does a FINE cake make
And they will all become delicious, or a cook is totally worthlessly wasteful and oranges.
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RE: What is your alternative to abortion?
April 3, 2013 at 2:16 pm
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(April 2, 2013 at 8:32 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: Instead of justifying my possition on the matter and explain.
I would like to know from the religious folk some things: I'm not religious, but since I oppose some forms of abortion, I'll answer.
Quote:Which messures to avoid unwanted pregancies would you aprove off?
Education & Contraception. Also the forced sterilization of the poor.
Quote:Which messures to prevent single mums from drifting into poverty would you aprove of?
Child Support & Charity. Also the forced remarriage of single moms.
Quote:Which mesures to prevent teen preagnacies would you aprove of?
Same as my answer to the first question. Education & Contraception. The forced sterilization of all teenagers would help too.
Quote:Which messures to avoid parents from drifting into poverty would you aprove of?
Employment & Charity. I've heard forced labor camps are pretty good too.
Quote:Which messures to ensure that a child does not become a burden on the mothers carreer and life would you aprove of?
If a mother (or father) favours her/his career over raising a baby, then they have their priorities wrong. Give the baby up for adoption if you are that disinterested in raising it properly.
Quote:Which messures for unwanted preagnancies would you aprove of?
Depends on the type of pregnancy. Pregnancies that are the result of non-consensual sex can be aborted. Pregnancies that are the result of consensual sex should be seen through to the end, and the baby given up for adoption.
Quote:And finaly: at which age is it alright to watch a person die or kill a person?
It's alright at any age to watch a person die. They are going to have to learn about death sooner or later.
It's never alright to kill a person, unless they are trying to kill you / someone else. Or if they want to die (e.g. euthanasia).
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RE: What is your alternative to abortion?
April 3, 2013 at 2:18 pm
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Forced marriage? Are you fucking kidding me?
And forced sterilization "for being poor?"
Tib. For fuck's sake.
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RE: What is your alternative to abortion?
April 3, 2013 at 2:20 pm
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(April 3, 2013 at 2:18 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Forced marriage? Are you fucking kidding me? Hmm, let's see.
Forced sterilization of the poor.
Forced sterilization of all teenagers.
Forced labor camps.
But no, the one that got you riled up was the forced marriages? Seriously?
I'm trolling by the way. :-)
The other parts of my answers are accurate.
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RE: What is your alternative to abortion?
April 3, 2013 at 2:20 pm
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(April 3, 2013 at 2:16 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Education & Contraception. Also the forced sterilization of the poor.
You have just officially become a good argument for the possession of weapons by private citizens Tibs. Next time you plan on being around poor people, maybe you should alert someone so that some sort of barrier can be erected between you and them?
(I know I like to joke alot, but that is truly and deeply disturbing - the last thing I would have ever expected to see from you)
whew, trolling okay, responding at the same time. Thank god....lol.
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RE: What is your alternative to abortion?
April 3, 2013 at 2:21 pm
It all got me riled up, but that was the first thing I was able to blast type in my disbelief.
The labor camps? To be honest, that's one thing I wouldn't be surprised to hear coming out of the Libertarian camp. That caused less of a raised eyebrow.
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RE: What is your alternative to abortion?
April 3, 2013 at 2:23 pm
(April 3, 2013 at 2:18 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Forced marriage? Are you fucking kidding me?
And forced sterilization "for being poor?"
Tib. For fuck's sake.
you missed the forced sterilization for being a teenager... so that's how humanity will go extinct... 
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RE: What is your alternative to abortion?
April 3, 2013 at 2:25 pm
Please see the rest of my comment following the comma, first line of my above response.
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RE: What is your alternative to abortion?
April 3, 2013 at 2:32 pm
(April 2, 2013 at 9:40 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Which mesures to prevent teen preagnacies would you aprove of?: Abstainance. It worked for me. And I do not approve of unwed people having sex.
A perfect example of dogmatic thinking trumping the pragmatic.
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