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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 10:38 am
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(May 16, 2013 at 9:44 am)ideologue08 Wrote: Yes, that's exactly right. We Muslims are evil and deserve everything we get coming to us, blame Islam for all the actions your illegitimate country is doing today (illegitimate because the declaration of independence is illegal). America is a country founded upon violence and to this day perpetuates nothing but violence (due to Islam of course). We -are- a country founded on violence, and maintained from time to time by violence, and we do perpetuate violence. That's not all we're founded upon, maintained by, or perpetuate, of course. Why would you think that this would be a subject of contention with me? I don't blame islam for anything except that which is done in the name of islam - and frankly I don't have to, because those things done in service of djinn are damning enough that I needn't draw in some other ill to condemn them.
The constant insistence to excuse ones own inequities (or to outright pretend that there are none) by reference to what is perceived as the flaws of another is absurd.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 10:43 am
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(May 16, 2013 at 10:38 am)Rhythm Wrote: The constant insistence to excuse ones own inequities (or to outright pretend that there are none) by reference to what is perceived as the flaws of another is absurd. I'd say the same thing, yet you don't see me blaming democracy for the war in Iraq do you? Or Communism for the wars in Eastern Europe? No.
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 10:54 am
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What I do see, is you constantly making excuses for you and yours by reference to others. TQ. You wouldn't "say the same" and you haven't been "saying the same". Though clearly you've realized that now.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 11:00 am
You still don't seem to realize that a scripture cannot blow itself up autonomously nor can the US constitution physically march to the Middle East. Either you're a lunatic, an Islamophobe, or both.
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 11:04 am
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Are you going for the trifecta? I'll take false dilemma for 200, Alex.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 11:05 am
He's like the pokemon master of fallacies. Gotta use 'em all!
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 11:08 am
And you believe that Hitler's moustache is to blame for Nazism as well I suppose? I wouldn't rule it out.
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 11:13 am
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Always pushing the envelope, I see. If un-reasonable discussion were horse-racing, and your comments were a thoroughbred, they'd be worth millions by now.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 11:14 am
(May 16, 2013 at 10:07 am)ideologue08 Wrote: People who blame Islam are only doing so because the perpetrators are Muslims.
Huh... imagine that.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 11:16 am
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If this discussion was horse racing, I'd be the horse yes and you'd be horse manure.
(May 16, 2013 at 11:14 am)Tonus Wrote: (May 16, 2013 at 10:07 am)ideologue08 Wrote: People who blame Islam are only doing so because the perpetrators are Muslims.
Huh... imagine that. I'm too busy imagining Stalin, it's a shame his beliefs didn't die along with him.
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