Why do feminists have such a bad reputation?

[thesummerqueen]

Is that what concerns you the most? Maybe you ought to be a little bit more concerned by the damage that radical feminists do.

Since you don't know me, you rather misogynist-sounding-twat, you don't know that I actually rather dislike "fundies" of all sorts, and that includes radical feminists for just that reason. I was saying that not all of us "feminists" are radicals, so quit making it sound like it.

You come up with a lot of shit and little of it can be used for compost.

[Kayenneh]

Is that what concerns you the most? Maybe you ought to be a little bit more concerned by the damage that radical feminists do.

Yeah.. It's so tiresome to see all the pink female symbols with an 'A' in the circle part spray painted all over town. They do indeed so much damage to our bus stops and walls..

But in all honesty, they are like any other radicals and fundamentalists. Ignore them for the most part and persecute them when they break the law.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

'Cuz they have sand in their vaginas.

[thesummerqueen]

But this is really the true face of feminism.

No it's not. You don't see the "true" face of feminism because most feminists aren't being "loud" enough for someone to make a youtube video making fun of them. For every one screamer, there's sure to be several others working hard to ensure we have equal pay, equal rights, and respect. You are equating a handful of the population with "all" of the population, and adding your own biases.

Feminism isn't about equality, it's about greedy, unfeminine women wanting more and more and more. I detest feminists but I detest male feminists almost as much. Yuk. Give me a humble, modest, feminine woman any day.

Wow, so much in here.

1) You don't understand what feminism is, but you hate it.

2) What's wrong with men who want women to be equally respected and represented? Not "man" enough for you? Be careful how you answer - I'm already of the opinion you have a tiny dick and even tinier ego.

3) What's "humble"? One who recognizes you as her lord and master? Oh, I hope you answer the right way here as well, because I'm sure it will only confirm my suspicions.

Maybe you're saying that in jest (the last bit) but actually it's true, these feminists need to learn that to be attractive to men requires certain behaviours.

Really?

I've dated around and settled on one man and I can tell you quite definitely, having as many male friends as I do that confide in me, that those "behaviors" change based on the man, because no two men think alike. You're just pissed not everyone's conforming to your standard.

I agree that no one should be forced into a box, but you have to consider that people are at their best when they are in a particular role.

Yes, the role they are best at playing. May not be the 'traditional role'.

I wouldn't force a woman to be traditional, but I would prefer her to be traditional, and women need to take note of what men are attracted to.

As we noted, that's YOUR preference, not everyone else's. I don't have to note shit all about what you're attracted to.

If a woman sincerely wants to do this or that in whatever way she wants, that's fine, as long as feminists aren't forcing her.

Generally feminists want women to do what they want to do; they aren't forcing anything.

Women should just be themselves, and it just so happens that there's a particular way of being that is naturally attractive and appealing to men, just like there's a natural masculine manner which is attractive to women.

I already stated that this is categorically bullshit.

If you've ever looked at women's dating profiles, you'll notice a massive difference in the way that western women sell themselves compared to women from other parts of the world.

Culture, you twat, culture. So what?

For example, a typical western woman will sell herself as being confident, career minded, sarcastic (I see that one a lot), blunt, a party girl, and so on. The kind of guy she's looking for has to be : confident, a certain height, a certain look, have certain interests, and so on. A lot of superficial requirements, and they tend to state preferences rather than necessities.

By contrast, a filipino girl (I use this as an excellent example) will typically sell herself as being kind, sweet, humble, respectful, feminine, gentle, hard working, good with money, affectionate, etc. The kind of guy she's looking for is someone who is nice, kind, and not much else really. Not demanding, and focussed on what is really important.

That's your judgment on what's important - not theirs. You don't know what's important to those western girls. You just think they're being superficial. Your problem, not theirs.

It's like night and day. Western women have very much lost touch with what men want.

Yet they keep getting married and laid. Go figure.

I'm all for equality but you have to be careful what you mean by equality.

No we don't.

Men and women have equal value but their roles are largely quite different.

Only if culture and society say so - not 'naturally' - and who gives a fuck about that?

Women have certain strengths but western women are so busy trying to be like men that they neglect their natural strengths.

Who defines natural?

And in a way that negates all talk of equality because by trying to be like a man,

Wanting equal pay means I want to be a man?

it's like you're giving up on your womanhood. It's like a black slave trying to act free by painting their face white, or a cat trying to be equal to a dog by barking. It doesn't work.

Wow, sexist AND racist.

Feminists confuse being of equal value with being the same.

That's a smart comment, but it's not just feminists who confuse it - anti-feminists do too.

Feminism damages womanhood.

No it doesn't, it just bothers you.

Women should be women, rather than arbitrarily trying to be different just for the sake of being different.

Being a career minded person doesn't mean she doesn't have a vagina. Still a woman.

Women already have an identity, there's no need to take on men's identities or try to create weird new ones. If a woman is genuinely "different", so be it, but seriously, most aren't.

Which is what? I reckon you could match it against a few non-Western societies that would shock you with how "non-submissive' those women are.

Once is too many. I'm sick of hearing it myself. But as she says, she doesn't hate men. Yeah, that must be it. Ever noticed how many feminists label themselves as bisexual, pansexual, kitchensinksexual? Weird. They're just weird people. I'm always wary of anyone who is part of a movement, or an ism of any kind. And a lot of them have tattoos, what's up with that? Even grannies these days have tattoos, like it's sexy.

I'm sure not a one of them gives a fuck what you think is sexy either. Is that what bothers you? That no one cares what you think?

Now check out the trainwreck on the far left in this debate. She's got the lot, she's got the tattoos, the masculine hairdo, no effort whatsoever to make herself look slim and attractive, and that annoying way of talking where everything sounds like a question? That's the hallmark of someone who knows that their shite will never be accepted as truth so they try to come off as reasonable by making it sound like a question? You know what I mean? I hope you do? Anyway? Moving on? Haha, horrible isn't it.

Again, what do looks have to do with it?




You strike me as a profoundly insecure person.

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Oh, and I forgot to add one more thing:

Feminists aren't out to try and be attractive to men, so this is a moot issue. All they want is for women to be free of fear and constraint. So quit bringing up dress/looks/tattoos, etc.

No one woman on this forum now gives a fuck what you think about her or how sexy you think she is at this point, I can guarantee that. And we're all under the assumption now that you're a prick.

What you've basically done is the equivalent of walking into a room masturbating in front of everyone. Which is fine, I guess - we would have figured out you were a wanker anyway sooner or later - but don't be surprised if we're all 1) disgusted, and 2) don't take you seriously and 3) don't find your penis as amazing as you do.

[The Grand Nudger]

"Give me a humble, modest, feminine woman any day."

Meh, looks to be a classic difference in preference to me. Give me a flambouyant, boastful, butch woman all day long -

three questions

Can she hold a thought in her head?-if yes proceed.
Does she demand and accept absolute equality with me- if yes proceed.
Can she fuck-if yes, propose.

I really don;t understand the problem, even with "radical fems". So she has strong opinions that differ from your own? Man the fuck up creampuff (if for no other reason than that she clearly did).

[thesummerqueen]

Can she fuck-if yes, propose.

You forgot to add "In that rip 'em, tear 'em, leave dents in the walls and break glass kinda way".

[Kayenneh]

No one woman on this forum now gives a fuck what you think about her or how sexy you think she is at this point, I can guarantee that.

Now hold on, I might disagree!!

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On a second (actually first) thought, nah. Couldn't give a rat's ass!

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[The Grand Nudger]

Can she fuck-if yes, propose.

You forgot to add "In that rip 'em, tear 'em, leave dents in the walls and break glass kinda way".

Indeed, gotta say, the girl in the video seemed pretty fiery, which is -to my mind- an endearing and valuable trait in every concievable way. I bet she wouldn't give a shit whether or not I found it endearing - and would be positively insulted that I would paint it in such a light.....which is even better...

[fr0d0]

"__________" is evidence of natural selection at work.

[Macky Avelli]

Is that what concerns you the most? Maybe you ought to be a little bit more concerned by the damage that radical feminists do.

Yeah.. It's so tiresome to see all the pink female symbols with an 'A' in the circle part spray painted all over town. They do indeed so much damage to our bus stops and walls..

But in all honesty, they are like any other radicals and fundamentalists. Ignore them for the most part and persecute them when they break the law.

They only exist on the internet in my experience. I don't know any personally and I can't really remember ever coming across one of them in real life, thank fuck. They're very entertaining in an ironic way. Whenever they ramble on about the patriarchy, or this that and the other, it's just funny to watch them or read their articles or comments and see them get worked up.