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RE: How the Torah predicted the coming of Mohamed
April 30, 2013 at 2:54 am
(April 27, 2013 at 12:42 pm)Raven Wrote: <Muslin Scholar said: This can show that the Christian belief is totally altered (with no basis) even using the current (false) bible. >
OK, so what's the point of using "evidence" from a book you regard as bogus to prove the legitimacy of your Prophet?
Just sayin'.... good question,
I'm just showing the consistency of the Islamic model
The Bible has many clear errors, so it is not 100% correct
The bible has references to Mohamed, against the Christians beliefs
It may have some truth, but then it will be according to Islam not to Christianity
There are other many signs in the Bible about Islam, they cannot be just coincidences predicting something like that in the future.
This is my point
I'll present some of these facts as well.
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RE: How the Torah predicted the coming of Mohamed
April 30, 2013 at 3:04 am
(April 30, 2013 at 2:54 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (April 27, 2013 at 12:42 pm)Raven Wrote: <Muslin Scholar said: This can show that the Christian belief is totally altered (with no basis) even using the current (false) bible. >
OK, so what's the point of using "evidence" from a book you regard as bogus to prove the legitimacy of your Prophet?
Just sayin'.... good question,
I'm just showing the consistency of the Islamic model
The Bible has many clear errors, so it is not 100% correct
The bible has references to Mohamed, against the Christians beliefs
It may have some truth, but then it will be according to Islam not to Christianity
There are other many signs in the Bible about Islam, they cannot be just coincidences predicting something like that in the future.
This is my point
I'll present some of these facts as well.
Yes, since it is the same god! The god of Abraham! Also, Islam is the youngest religion of the three main religions from the god of Abraham.
I guess you need to watch for the fuck ups, before writing your own text.
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Ismael or Isaac
April 30, 2013 at 3:07 am
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Another interesting reference from the Bible is
Christians believe that Isac was the first son of Abraham and he was the one to be sacrificed.
Isaac was born to Sarah when Abraham was 100 years old and Sarah was 90 (Genesis 21:5).
Sarah was the half-sister of Abraham. They had the same father, but different mothers (Genesis 20:12). Sarah was 10 years younger than Abraham (Genesis 17:17). Sarah was barren, so she gave her handmaid, Hagar, to Abraham as a wife (Genesis 16:3). Hagar became pregnant with Abraham's child when Abraham was 85 years old!!! After Hagar became pregnant, Sarah twice drove her away: Once before the child was born, (Genesis 16:4-12), and once after (Genesis 21:9-20).
Isaac was 14 years younger than Ishmael. When Abraham took his son to be sacrificed, that son appears to have been about 13. God several times refers to Abraham's son as his "only son." God says "Take now your son, your only son, Isaac." (Genesis 22:2). God says, "You have not withheld your son, your only son, from me." (Genesis 22:12).
It is logically obvious that it was Ishmael and not Isaac who was to be sacrificed.
(April 30, 2013 at 3:04 am)Dragonetti Wrote: Quote:There are other many signs in the Bible about Islam, they cannot be just coincidences predicting something like that in the future.
This is my point
I'll present some of these facts as well.
Yes, since it is the same god! The god of Abraham! Also, Islam is the youngest religion of the three main religions from the god of Abraham.
I guess you need to watch for the fuck ups, before writing your own text. I think you need to inspect your mental abilities before answering!
If Judaism, Christianity & Islam are from the same (false) source
How the Bible can predict Mohamed?
How Mohamed can show that there is some false statements in the bible against the Christian beliefs?
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RE: How the Torah predicted the coming of Mohamed
April 30, 2013 at 3:54 am
That was a 'prediction' about as compelling as 'it will rain somewhere in the world in the future'. Oh shit, look, I know the future. Allahu akbar.
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RE: Ismael or Isaac
April 30, 2013 at 4:19 am
(April 30, 2013 at 3:07 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Another interesting reference from the Bible is
Christians believe that Isac was the first son of Abraham and he was the one to be sacrificed.
Isaac was born to Sarah when Abraham was 100 years old and Sarah was 90 (Genesis 21:5).
Sarah was the half-sister of Abraham. They had the same father, but different mothers (Genesis 20:12). Sarah was 10 years younger than Abraham (Genesis 17:17). Sarah was barren, so she gave her handmaid, Hagar, to Abraham as a wife (Genesis 16:3). Hagar became pregnant with Abraham's child when Abraham was 85 years old!!! After Hagar became pregnant, Sarah twice drove her away: Once before the child was born, (Genesis 16:4-12), and once after (Genesis 21:9-20).
Isaac was 14 years younger than Ishmael. When Abraham took his son to be sacrificed, that son appears to have been about 13. God several times refers to Abraham's son as his "only son." God says "Take now your son, your only son, Isaac." (Genesis 22:2). God says, "You have not withheld your son, your only son, from me." (Genesis 22:12).
It is logically obvious that it was Ishmael and not Isaac who was to be sacrificed.
(April 30, 2013 at 3:04 am)Dragonetti Wrote: Yes, since it is the same god! The god of Abraham! Also, Islam is the youngest religion of the three main religions from the god of Abraham.
I guess you need to watch for the fuck ups, before writing your own text. I think you need to inspect your mental abilities before answering!
If Judaism, Christianity & Islam are from the same (false) source
How the Bible can predict Mohamed?
How Mohamed can show that there is some false statements in the bible against the Christian beliefs?
Easy. The writers of the koran read the bible. They looked for some type retarded prediction, and they wrote the koran to sync with the bible.
The koran appearance in history is after the bible. Look my logic just broke your tiny little book!
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RE: How the Torah predicted the coming of Mohamed
April 30, 2013 at 5:06 am
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RE: Ismael or Isaac
April 30, 2013 at 8:27 am
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RE: How the Torah predicted the coming of Mohamed
April 30, 2013 at 9:49 am
(April 30, 2013 at 2:54 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: There are other many signs in the Bible about Islam, they cannot be just coincidences predicting something like that in the future.
They aren't coincidences. A guy who knows the texts and tales of the Abrahamic religion writes his own book and makes sure to describe events so that they are "predicted" by those earlier texts and tales.
I'm going to write a "holy book" that describes events of the 20th century, and insist that I found it on a floppy disk from 1802. WTF it's full of so many accurate predictions, it must be GOD!!!
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RE: How the Torah predicted the coming of Mohamed
April 30, 2013 at 9:17 pm
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(April 30, 2013 at 2:49 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (April 27, 2013 at 12:31 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: The Torah also says there was a global flood that wiped out all but a handful of humans.
Torah. Borah. The bible and Torah are not all true
They have some truth, but they were altered (by the Jews)
IF you are claiming the Koran is not, upon what authority?
Quote:The flood was a local event that covered the inhabitant land that time (Around Turkey)
Floods occur everywhere near rivers everything few years. Pardon if that claim is so trivial as to be meaningless.
(April 30, 2013 at 3:07 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Another interesting reference from the Bible is
Christians believe that Isac was the first son of Abraham and he was the one to be sacrificed.
Isaac was born to Sarah when Abraham was 100 years old and Sarah was 90 (Genesis 21:5).
Those claims alone are sufficient for a rational person to call bullshit.
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RE: How the Torah predicted the coming of Mohamed
April 30, 2013 at 9:25 pm
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