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RE: 25,000 Muslims March in England to call for laws to Silence Critics of Islam.
May 6, 2013 at 4:48 am
(May 6, 2013 at 4:38 am)Dragonetti Wrote: (May 6, 2013 at 4:30 am)mo66 Wrote: No, but you are a fascist because you are opposed to their right to protest.
I think they protest is quaint, and if they do not like a society they have immigrated too. Move back. So you still abide by your fascist opinions? What evidence do you have that they are all immigrants? And why do you think that Great Britain should destroy freedom of expression and freedom to protest?
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RE: 25,000 Muslims March in England to call for laws to Silence Critics of Islam.
May 6, 2013 at 4:49 am
It must be a poor pathetic religion if it can't take a bit of criticism. What a bunch of wimps!
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RE: 25,000 Muslims March in England to call for laws to Silence Critics of Islam.
May 6, 2013 at 5:01 am
(May 6, 2013 at 4:48 am)mo66 Wrote: (May 6, 2013 at 4:38 am)Dragonetti Wrote: I think they protest is quaint, and if they do not like a society they have immigrated too. Move back. So you still abide by your fascist opinions? What evidence do you have that they are all immigrants? And why do you think that Great Britain should destroy freedom of expression and freedom to protest?
I am not fascist, because I do not want a totalitarian government that controls public or private life. I think you are misusing the word. What you do in your private life should not be hinder by the government. The government should be religious neutral, and it should never side with any religion.
UK has a state religion, in the USA we do not. I keep seeing religion creeping into the government/state area. I draw a hard line with that issue.
Also, me calling Mohammed an idiot, does not hurt Muslims around the world.
I never said they should never protest, but they should be made aware of how the society works in these areas.
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RE: 25,000 Muslims March in England to call for laws to Silence Critics of Islam.
May 6, 2013 at 5:06 am
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(May 6, 2013 at 5:01 am)Dragonetti Wrote: (May 6, 2013 at 4:48 am)mo66 Wrote: So you still abide by your fascist opinions? What evidence do you have that they are all immigrants? And why do you think that Great Britain should destroy freedom of expression and freedom to protest?
I am not fascist, because I do not want a totalitarian government that controls public or private life. I think you are misusing the word. What you do in your private life should not be hinder by the government. The government should be religious neutral, and it should never side with any religion.
UK has a state religion, in the USA we do not. I keep seeing religion creeping into the government/state area. I draw a hard line with that issue.
Also, me calling Mohammed an idiot, does not hurt Muslims around the world.
I never said they should never protest, but they should be made aware of how the society works in these areas. No, you are a fascist because you have repeatedly stated that those who protested should "move", implying that they should not have the right to express themselves. You want them removed because you don't like their opinions, just like Adolf.
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RE: 25,000 Muslims March in England to call for laws to Silence Critics of Islam.
May 6, 2013 at 5:23 am
Negative, that does not make me fascist. I do not encompass the word. That would be like calling me a Muslim for like something small in that religion.
Again, I am a atheist, against organize religion.
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RE: 25,000 Muslims March in England to call for laws to Silence Critics of Islam.
May 6, 2013 at 5:31 am
(May 6, 2013 at 5:06 am)mo66 Wrote: you have repeatedly stated that those who protested should "move", implying that they should not have the right to express themselves. I think you're reading it wrong.
The people who are protesting have all the right to do so.
Just, considering where they are living, they shouldn't expect that protest to have any effect.
The UK is not in the habit of making that kind of laws... not for their own CoE, nor for any other religion.
Given that it shouldn't have any effect, if they really do wish to live in a place that has the kind of laws they protested in favor of, then they should move to such a place.
Ever since I was a kid, I heard the old saying: "quem está mal, muda-se" == Who isn't well where he is, moves.
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RE: 25,000 Muslims March in England to call for laws to Silence Critics of Islam.
May 6, 2013 at 5:35 am
(May 6, 2013 at 5:31 am)pocaracas Wrote: (May 6, 2013 at 5:06 am)mo66 Wrote: you have repeatedly stated that those who protested should "move", implying that they should not have the right to express themselves. I think you're reading it wrong.
The people who are protesting have all the right to do so.
Just, considering where they are living, they shouldn't expect that protest to have any effect.
The UK is not in the habit of making that kind of laws... not for their own CoE, nor for any other religion.
Given that it shouldn't have any effect, if they really do wish to live in a place that has the kind of laws they protested in favor of, then they should move to such a place.
Ever since I was a kid, I heard the old saying: "quem está mal, muda-se" == Who isn't well where he is, moves.
Correct, the protest is not going to have any effect to the country.
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RE: 25,000 Muslims March in England to call for laws to Silence Critics of Islam.
May 6, 2013 at 5:45 am
(May 6, 2013 at 5:31 am)pocaracas Wrote: (May 6, 2013 at 5:06 am)mo66 Wrote: you have repeatedly stated that those who protested should "move", implying that they should not have the right to express themselves. I think you're reading it wrong.
The people who are protesting have all the right to do so.
Just, considering where they are living, they shouldn't expect that protest to have any effect.
The UK is not in the habit of making that kind of laws... not for their own CoE, nor for any other religion.
Given that it shouldn't have any effect, if they really do wish to live in a place that has the kind of laws they protested in favor of, then they should move to such a place.
Ever since I was a kid, I heard the old saying: "quem está mal, muda-se" == Who isn't well where he is, moves. So, when you were a kid, you were taught by your ignorant parents (I presume) that if you don't like government policies, you should leave your own country and go elsewhere rather than protest and stand up for your values and ideals? What you are basically preaching is that you either should like whatever the govt does or get the hell out. Do you understand what's wrong with this opinion and why the people who taught you that are ignorant?
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RE: 25,000 Muslims March in England to call for laws to Silence Critics of Islam.
May 6, 2013 at 6:02 am
You are trying to be all encompassing. Protesting government issues is all fine and dandy. But, protesting for religious purpose is just plain dumb.
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RE: 25,000 Muslims March in England to call for laws to Silence Critics of Islam.
May 6, 2013 at 6:10 am
yeah.... my ignorant parents were a part of the revolution, so yeah... there's that.
And yes, in those days, before 1974, a LOT of portuguese people did move out. That's why you have strong portuguese communities in the US, France, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Germany, etc...
But that's different.... When the government doesn't have the backing of, at least, the majority of the people (and the military) then it cannot stand.
We're talking about a standard democratic country, the UK. If you don't like the policy of the current government, you vote for the other guys first chance you get. That's how democracy works.
But these muslims are wanting the government to impose a restriction on one of the most fundamental rules of democracy: free speech.
That's something the UK, nor any other european country, will ever abide by, regardless of which party is ruling the country.
It is a hopeless proposition with no practical outcome, except getting us to talk about it.... or maybe there's a hidden agenda we're not seeing...?
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