Young as 6 raped by troops in Congo who fled M23

[NoraBrimstone]

Wow, what a fucking depressing read.

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DRC became independent in 1960. Up to that point it was ruled by one of the most brutal colonial regimes in Africa, and perhaps the world. Mobutu wasn't any better, and his regime ended in 1997. Under both of these regimes there were enormous human rights' violations. There has effectively been civil wars since 1997. I don't think it's hard to see that the current state of things in DRC are so violent because, in part, of it's very violent, repressive, not-so-distant past. How can a group of people who have known nothing but violence and repression from their governments, suddenly be peaceful?? That takes at least a few generations to work out, and a lot of willingness on all sides to stop the violence. It's just not there yet.

western governments do not care who owns or runs the Congo these degenerates only serve their multinational conglomerates in and attempt to extract as much wealth from africa as possible, the congo is the richest mining territory int the world, so why would they care if M23 ruled the congo or not? why would they fight against a United Congo?

You answered your own question. The coorporate interest is to just extract what they can and leave. That's hard to do when there is an armed militia attacking the mines, killing or essentially enslaving the workforce, and in some cases sabatoging the expensive infrastructure. Too much in-fighting in Congo. It's not stable enough for investments to always pay off.

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Wow, what a fucking depressing read.

Welcome to the political situation that is Africa. At least in my experience (I visited Kenya some years ago, my husband travels there frequently for work, though not this year, the sequester forced him to slash the travel budget ), the people tend to be upbeat and just try to make their way as they can, no matter their limiting circumstances.

[Minimalist]

It's not stable enough for investments to always pay off.

Funny how we always hear a lot of shit about how entrepreneurs take all the risks..... except they seem to avoid risk like the plague.

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How about Ghana or Kenya or even South Africa?-none of which are perfect, but they're overall pretty stable.

Ghana is in the midst of a civil war, kenya's leader is on trial for war crimes, and south africa is seeing the largest labor protest since the 1960's full of wildcat strikes and assisinations of labour unions leaders

One needs to remember most of the continent did not operate independently of their colonial powers until the 1950's-1960's.

so why should they cooperate with even the notion that they are in fact a "country"

These are still fledgling governments, especially those like Liberia and Sierra Leone which recently had civil wars. It's unfair to expect them to be fully developed at this point in time.

which is why they fight against the current governments.... why is west africa divided?... other than too serve the needs of europe

Think of how the US was in 1830. Not to mention that most of these countries didn't choose their own borders and have to attempt to form a cohesive citizenship from very diverse groups of people, which is difficult to do.

so why should they cohere to the nationalistic colonial government which you love so much?

Look at Rwanda... The Hutus and Tutsies should never have been lumped together, they've never gotten along, but in pre-colonial times they avoided each other for the most part, but some guy in Europe decided that was the perfect boundary for the country.

you are insane the hutu an tutsi are made up races created by the germans in order to foment racial hatred they were divided by those who looked the most white...like you

Also, China is now one of the biggest investors in Africa, they're edging out the West.

atleast they only focus on monetary gain and not on creating long lasting racial hatred amongst the people like the west does

This varies from country to country, but generally speaking... I think we're going to see a huge shattering of Africa, the formation of Southern Sudan being the beginning of this. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

I like the south sudan being free from the racist middle eastern governmennt in the north maybe you and your husband like racist nationalist governments we all know for a fact you hate the left wing controlling african govenrments

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Just read what you're siting! A marketplace turned into a NEAR war zone... it's been declared a crime scene...
Fuck me... the same thing could be said about South Central LA from time to time... it doesn't equate to the country being at civil war! This is a dispute about moving a MARKET, not a civil war... WOW! I'm not going to engage with such dishonesty.

okay so their not in civil war yet but they have massive protests going on concerning labour and oil subsidies, and the recent election which many say was a fraud but you can hardly use a country in such turmoil which is an hours drive from a real warzone in mali which is plauged with alqueda....a country which is the size of rhode island as an example of a perfect african country

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