Would theists become atheists if we found lifeform

[Consilius]

Albatrosses and ants don't have the cognitive abilities of humans. They have no choice but to do what they do, and they do it to survive. Humans, we have the choice whether or not to do stuff for each other. We think what animals do is love because it resembles what we do. All in all, we can decide to love. They can't so it's not love.

The ability to believe in a god is just one of the effects of having a superior brain. It's the BRAIN, or, the soul, that gives us human rights.

[pocaracas]

The ability to invent fairy tales is a very uniquely human, on this planet.
How can you claim that animals have no choice? Have you ever been one?
I see cats and dogs making choices every day... can't imagine most other mammals not having some similar mechanism...

[Consilius]

Animals run on instinct. Science says so. But scientists are doing research into whether or not they have self-awareness.
An animal, in most cases, can only make the choice that will increase its chances of surviving and reproducing. Humans aren't bound by this. We can decide to give money to the poor, or shield women from shooters. We can also decide not to.
Animals seem to make choices, but in the end, they are bound to the one that can objectively be seen as the best.

[Something completely different]

Albatrosses and ants don't have the cognitive abilities of humans. They have no choice but to do what they do, and they do it to survive.

And so do you.

A simple truth.

Or do you enjoy starving yourself to death on a sunday afternoon whilest ramming asbest down your lungs?

Humans, we have the choice whether or not to do stuff for each other.

Your point being???

We think what animals do is love because it resembles what we do. All in all, we can decide to love. They can't so it's not love.

löl you can decide who you love?

Again define "Love", because in the end it boils down to "we can decide whom we fuck". Love is not something you decide to do, it is a social behavior pattern which you follow after chosing your mating partner.

The ability to believe in a god is just one of the effects of having a superior brain.

Na. It`s more of a disability.

To look at things you dont understand and scream "Magic" instead of conducting research. Other than that, it only provides comfort to those unwilling to do research.

It's the BRAIN, or, the soul, that gives us human rights.

I never thought I would find a theist who clearly underlines that rights and therefor moral values are the result of the brain - therefor thought. And didnt come down from a intergalactic dictator.

[Consilius]

Lets define lave as altruism, the action of doing something for someone else at your own cost.
Killing myself? People do it for the sake of other people, which is altruism: love.
Animals simply cannot decide whether or not to leave their mates or their children if that is what their species does. If they did, it would only be because their own lives are in even greater danger. Humans can do that because we simply don't want to take care of a family, or we have something to do that will benefit more people e.g. joining the military, in the case of a just cause.
I can decide not to help my parents or my wife. That would be ingratitude, which animals cannot exhibit. I can also decide to feed a complete stranger. Altruism.
The Earth revolves around the Sun. People who didn't believe this said God did it. When we found out he didn't, that did not undermine his existence. We don't worship God out of the fear that the Earth would stop turning.
If religion was entirely primitive, it would make people comfortable. But religion says that we should give to the poor and love the people who try to kill us.
Animals don't have human rights because they can't think like we do. Because people can think, we have religion, morals, and science. These things, among many others, make us human. Which is why only humans get rights.

[Colanth]

A lifeform that's -impossible- to detect? That seems rather wishy washy bud. If they can't be detected...how did you determine that they were lifeforms?

So why aren't we detecting any? Do they all "not please"...siamese style, at once - indefinitely?

I thought they were undetectable, how did you determine this? What're the basics of light based biology (as opposed to our carbon based biology) - how did they get into this universe, where did they come from (how many places are there to come from beyond this universe), and why doesn't light from our universe also result in angels?

What type of energy? What are the basics of "mysterious energy" based biology?

Appeal to scripture to all questions. I could talk more about the Jinn detection since I have detected one myself I guess but it's quite a long story, one I don't really want to dwell on for private reasons. There's quite a few non-sequiter leading questions, can you spot them Hint: If humans are made up of atoms why can't the atoms from Mars make up humans

The same type of atoms that are found on mars (hydrogen, carbon, oxygen) do make up humans. So why can't the same type of light in this universe (if it's light, it's the same type as we have in this universe - if it's not the same, it's not light) make up angels.

I call "making it all up" on your entire system of assertion (which is also known as "religion").

[ideologue08]

What an idiot, how do the atoms from Mars make up humans you moron?

[The Grand Nudger]

Chemistry is the same everywhere we've been Ideologue........

[ideologue08]

Well you couldn't have achieved a pass in Chemistry if you think the atoms from Mars are forming humans.

[Terr]

Well you couldn't have achieved a pass in Chemistry if you think the atoms from Mars are forming humans.

Not Mars obviously, but where do you think atoms come from?