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How was the sun created on the fourth day?
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CleanShavenJesus
The Man for His Time and Place  Religious Views: Church of the Latter-Day Dude (Dudeism)
When I attended Church, my priest claimed the "light" created on the first day was the light of God.
That's cool and all, but yeah. No days. ronedee Wrote:Science doesn't have a good explaination for water ![[Image: YAAgdMk.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com%2FYAAgdMk.gif)  RE: How was the sun created on the fourth day?
June 7, 2013 at 5:55 pm
(This post was last modified: June 7, 2013 at 6:09 pm by Gilgamesh.)
(June 7, 2013 at 5:18 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: How can days pass? Days are based on the rotation of the Earth in terms of the Sun. The 24-hour day is based on this system. Days could not pass. Hell, even the Bible verse says on the fourth day...days were created. There was no time that could be measured into days until the creation of the Sun.Maybe god measured and then told them how many days had passed? It's not a very hard question to answer without contradicting or saying "you misinterpret" or "it's a metaphor not literal." There's a lot more questions to be asked about the bible that cannot be answered without bullshitting. Why choose one that can be answered honestly by a christian?  Quote:Maybe god measured and then told them how many days had passed? Maybe god told them how to keep track of time before the creation of the sun? Or maybe it's fucking bullshit. 
Why are we debating this nonsence anyway?!?!?!
We know the sun was not created through god! We know the earth wasnt! We know that the sun is compressed gas, which was formed through it being pulled together by it`s gravity. We know the planets were formed through pieces of material in space which were drawn into the sun`s orbit through gravity and through collition and being drawn towards each other formed the planets (a process which hasnt even stoped) Is this simply a case where someone tried to ask a theist a embaressing question and only atheists reply?  (June 7, 2013 at 5:21 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: Can't wait to see how Drippy and GC address this one. We could bring MS or some other muslim into this as well.... I've seen a thread where they claim only "periods" of time... undefined periods... compatible with that god-day notion! 
 (June 7, 2013 at 5:15 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: How was the Sun created on the fourth day if the Sun wasn't created until the fourth day? Four days wouldn't pass without the Sun. Actually - this is one of the OBVIOUS errors in the bible THe first page of the story of creation alone contains LOTS of things that are simply not consistent with reality. Obviously - the SUN had to exist first for the development of the earth to happen. Example - Day and Night are not Light and Darkness - they are actually based on a relationship between the Earth orbiting the sun - and the earth spinning on its axis - and how long it takes to complete ONE revolution of that spinning. . AN all knowing god that created the Solar system - which is NOT mentioned in genesis at all - would have known that. It can be quite dark during the day in some places on earth - and in others - at times - it is dark the whole day - and other times it is LIGHT the whole day as well. WE also know that the sun generated light - but the moon does not - so IT is not a great light. THere is NO layer of water above the SKY. Humans cannot eat all seed bearing plants safely. And many more - - Obviously - whoever wrote the bible wrote about the Myths and beliefs of the time - rather than reality.  RE: How was the sun created on the fourth day?
June 7, 2013 at 8:03 pm
(This post was last modified: June 7, 2013 at 8:03 pm by Simon Moon.)
(June 7, 2013 at 5:15 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: How was the Sun created on the fourth day if the Sun wasn't created until the fourth day? Four days wouldn't pass without the Sun. You also missed light being created on day 1, before the sun and stars. And plants being created on day 3, the day before the sun. Photosynthesis? We don't need no stinking photosynthesis. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.  (June 7, 2013 at 5:15 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: How was the Sun created on the fourth day if the Sun wasn't created until the fourth day? Four days wouldn't pass without the Sun. Light and darkness is what denoted the passage of time. ever since the 4th day the sun is the source God uses to produce light.  (June 7, 2013 at 8:03 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(June 7, 2013 at 5:15 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: How was the Sun created on the fourth day if the Sun wasn't created until the fourth day? Four days wouldn't pass without the Sun. So all plants would die in one day without light.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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