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Is it discrimination to ask for one's religion?
#41
RE: Is it discrimination to ask for one's religion?
(June 16, 2013 at 8:06 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Because he doesn't want to be surrounded by 'tards?

Not all religious people are "'tards." Some of them are extremely intelligent but fail to use proper reasoning when it comes to religious beliefs.
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#42
RE: Is it discrimination to ask for one's religion?
I know, I just like insulting theists.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.

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#43
RE: Is it discrimination to ask for one's religion?
I can't help but notice that God= BS has not returned any comments here.

So tell me, just how would a religious person feel and perform in a company that is mainly comprised of atheists or non-religious persons?
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#44
RE: Is it discrimination to ask for one's religion?
(June 16, 2013 at 10:10 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I can't help but notice that God= BS has not returned any comments here.

So tell me, just how would a religious person feel and perform in a company that is mainly comprised of atheists or non-religious persons?

The same way as if they were surrounded by literalist fundies... Smile
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#45
RE: Is it discrimination to ask for one's religion?
(June 16, 2013 at 10:10 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I can't help but notice that God= BS has not returned any comments here.

So tell me, just how would a religious person feel and perform in a company that is mainly comprised of atheists or non-religious persons?

That's always been the reality for me. I've been to big Christian events where you get that glowing feeling of security that everyone is on plan. That's not real life though, even there. Because people are just people in the end, including me. Descrimination on the grounds of belief where belief has nothing to do with it is wrong. Plain and simple.

(June 16, 2013 at 8:19 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: I know, I just like insulting theists.

Yeah right

(June 16, 2013 at 8:13 pm)Faith No More Wrote: proper reasoning

Darn! You mean you already claimed exclusivity on that!

Big Grin
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#46
RE: Is it discrimination to ask for one's religion?
Actually I don't think it is fr0d0. I don't think it is "wrong pure and simple" as I have said, one's religious believes will get one fired from an employment position as well as not be considered for an employment position.

All religious organisations here are using it to not allow "the wrong type of people to corrupt the corporate culture of the organisation" Dunno

People are people and they will discriminate no matter how you want to legislate it I think.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#47
RE: Is it discrimination to ask for one's religion?
(June 17, 2013 at 2:04 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Descrimination on the grounds of belief where belief has nothing to do with it is wrong. Plain and simple.
Yh, also it would be bad for business if they refused someone more qualified just for their beliefs. Plus, where would it stop after that? Discrimination based upon skin colour? age? We'd be back in the 1800's.
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#48
RE: Is it discrimination to ask for one's religion?
(June 17, 2013 at 4:55 am)ideologue08 Wrote: Yh, also it would be bad for business if they refused someone more qualified just for their beliefs. Plus, where would it stop after that? Discrimination based upon skin colour? age? We'd be back in the 1800's.
I don't want to work with someone who believes absurd nonsense e.g. that gay people live in sin, that's not discrimination, it's just a matter of choosing the people you want to have around. The hiring process not just about qualification, it's also about inter-personal relationships, you wouldn't hire someone who absolutely poisons the working atmosphere just because (s)he's qualified.

I have zero tolerance to bullshit, so yes, I would choose the lesser qualified atheist/agnostic over the more qualified devout Christian any day of the week.
"Men see clearly enough the barbarity of all ages — except their own!" — Ernest Crosby.
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#49
RE: Is it discrimination to ask for one's religion?
(June 17, 2013 at 5:33 am)littleendian Wrote:
(June 17, 2013 at 4:55 am)ideologue08 Wrote: Yh, also it would be bad for business if they refused someone more qualified just for their beliefs. Plus, where would it stop after that? Discrimination based upon skin colour? age? We'd be back in the 1800's.
I don't want to work with someone who believes absurd nonsense e.g. that gay people live in sin, that's not discrimination, it's just a matter of choosing the people you want to have around. The hiring process not just about qualification, it's also about inter-personal relationships, you wouldn't hire someone who absolutely poisons the working atmosphere just because (s)he's qualified.

I have zero tolerance to bullshit, so yes, I would choose the lesser qualified atheist/agnostic over the more qualified devout Christian any day of the week.

But if they kept It to themselves (ie, never spoke or confided to anyone what their personal beliefs are on a given subject) then really it's none of yours or anyone else's business is it?

Sure, if they began preaching and trying to tell co-workers that gay people were evil and going to hell and that if you disagree with him/her then you'll end up there to, then fire his or her ass. I'm aware that in the US a lot of atheists are at the recieving end of discrimination becuase they don't believe in a deity, but why stoop to an unethical, immoral (and illegal) level when it's so silly?

It's just an eye for an eye mentality it seems.
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#50
RE: Is it discrimination to ask for one's religion?
According to the OP there is the issue of the praying five times a day.

Now IF this is restricted to say one's own meal breaks..fine but if an employee wants to pray on company time he is bound to see the door.
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