Adam and Eve Saved the Environment

[Rahul]

No. You. I don't know much about Latter-Day Saints except for superficial stuff. I'm an ex-baptist. So it'll be interesting to read your opinions.

[PeterPriesthood]

It'll be interesting to give my opinions! By the way, I'm glad you got away from the Baptists; they're a worse cult than us Mormons!

[Godscreated]

The Bible is flawed, plain and simple. This is why most Christians have a hard time reconciling the teachings and stories within it, and instead they focus on a few snippets here and there to cling to as their core doctrines. Cherry picking is bad, no matter how you look at it.

So that's why Joesph Smith the con and druggie had to write another book, one I might add has no historical backing. Why would God see fit to inspire one book, then see it was flawed and directly bring writings to a secret place in a secret language to a single man. Why not correct the earlier one, would this have been simpler or not. If you kept your nose out of false teaching and actually study the Bible you might see the sensibility of scriptures.

Explain why the Moron Church waited for about 100 years, before they added, of Jesus Christ to, The Church of Latter Day Saints, why?

Science has revealed much, and because of that I take Evolution at face value, especially considering the extensive fossil record.

I can see why you would, you accept without question the man made Mormon religion of Joseph Smith, so why not evolution.

I may not understand how it relates to the Genesis creation story entirely, but I do know that there are two instances in the book where God creates man.

Are you saying God created man twice, where does it state that?

Since days in heaven are long periods of time on earth, it's possible that his creation of man started with the original spark of life, letting them evolve from lesser biological forms to what they later became. The order of creations in Genesis is also nonsensical, but that's understandable as this is a very old book that requires much interpretation when not understood by modern revelation.

Why would God use evolution, do you believe he is not omnipotent, and why would days in heaven be longer than on earth, when in actuality heaven is eternal time does not exist there. Why is the order of creation nonsensical, because science says it is, do you believe God is so flawed He doesn't know what order He was to use in creating.

As for the creation of Adam and Eve, this was an instantaneous thing. God created Adam from the dust of the Earth, and Eve was created from his Rib. Their creation was special since Adam was also the embodiment of Michael the Archangel, sent to Earth to be the first Patriarch and Prophet, and this is why they were separate from other creations.

Where in Genesis does it say God created man and woman, it says He took man and created Him in His image, all other passages say God made them, the man from the dust of the earth and woman from the man, and then put (blew) the breath of life in them.

Some of my understanding may be off from what actually happened, but I believe it will be possible to learn the truth of all things one day, if not in this life.

This is a statement true to all of us.

[PeterPriesthood]

The Bible is flawed, plain and simple. This is why most Christians have a hard time reconciling the teachings and stories within it, and instead they focus on a few snippets here and there to cling to as their core doctrines. Cherry picking is bad, no matter how you look at it.

So that's why Joesph Smith the con and druggie had to write another book, one I might add has no historical backing. Why would God see fit to inspire one book, then see it was flawed and directly bring writings to a secret place in a secret language to a single man. Why not correct the earlier one, would this have been simpler or not. If you kept your nose out of false teaching and actually study the Bible you might see the sensibility of scriptures.

You're bad at doing research on something you're trying to convince people of. After Joseph Smith the con and druggie gave the world the Book of Mormon, he set about correcting the entire Bible. It's called the "Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible". He took a KJV and made inspired changes. Oh...this is the first you're hearing of this. Well, I'm so glad I can be the bearer of glad tidings and good will.

Explain why the Moron Church waited for about 100 years, before they added, of Jesus Christ to, The Church of Latter Day Saints, why?

I imagine it was to get rid of the stigma that had been attached to the word "Mormons". Putting Jesus Christ in the title was a way of bridging the gap with the rest of the Christian Community, to show that we do indeed worship Christ and believe in his Atoning Sacrifice.

By the way, you can't get on to other people for spelling mistakes when you can't spell the "Moron Church" correctly. Hardy har.

I can see why you would, you accept without question the man made Mormon religion of Joseph Smith, so why not evolution.

Am I that transparent? Perhaps there are other factors here, but you simply are not asking the right questions to find out what they are. I'm sorry that I gave you the impression that I was gullible. Perhaps your first clue should have been that I wasn't taken in by your load of crap.

Are you saying God created man twice, where does it state that?

Oh, you never heard of the Pre-Adamites?

Creation 1
"God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." - Genesis 1:27

Creation 2
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." - Genesis 2:7

This takes place after the Seventh Day of Rest. The Garden of Eden account could have taken place at any point in man's history.

Why would God use evolution, do you believe he is not omnipotent, and why would days in heaven be longer than on earth, when in actuality heaven is eternal time does not exist there. Why is the order of creation nonsensical, because science says it is, do you believe God is so flawed He doesn't know what order He was to use in creating.

Not because Science "says so", but because Science proves it to be nonsensical. You believing in it at face value is quite nonsensical.

If God used Evolution to create man, then such is his prerogative, you nincompoop. Being Omniscient, he knew before hand that nature would pop out a man in his own image, or have you not thought of that?

God is not flawed; the men writing about him were. The men copying down those ancient manuscripts were also flawed. Even Joseph Smith was flawed when he was translating the Book of Mormon. Modern-day revelation is the only way to be sure of anything that comes from God!

Where in Genesis does it say God created man and woman, it says He took man and created Him in His image, all other passages say God made them, the man from the dust of the earth and woman from the man, and then put (blew) the breath of life in them.

You're a Christian; why are you asking me something you should know by heart? Get your Bible out and read the account, man!

Some of my understanding may be off from what actually happened, but I believe it will be possible to learn the truth of all things one day, if not in this life.

This is a statement true to all of us.

You have a strange way of showing it then. Why do you not admit that some of your understanding may be flawed? Man is fallible, so why aren't you?

[Captain Colostomy]

Y'all remember when Timmy and Jimmy from South Park got into a cripple fight?

Yeah...me too.

[PeterPriesthood]

Y'all remember when Timmy and Jimmy from South Park got into a cripple fight?

Yeah...me too.

[Godscreated]

I do not accept you prophets, if God were to send prophets today it would be to the entire church, as He did in the OT when He sent prophets to Israel.

God sends Prophets to the World, not to the Church. Definitely not to your Church, as it's an abomination before the eyes of the Lord. Those olden day prophets, such as Jonah, were sent on their lonesome. Why would the formula change from then to now? You seem to think it would.

Funny how the Mormons and Adventist claim their prophets, yet say they were sent to the world. As far as I know the Mormons and Adventist are the only two that have not been satisfied with the Bible, so they came up with there own additions, and are the two that have prophets. Christ changed the way God works with man, the Holy Spirit is now available to man, He even works with the lost, why would I need a prophet when I have the Holy Spirit as my counselor and guide.

God has always sent prophets. Having Prophets nowadays just makes sense. When Judas killed himself, was his spot in the Twelve Disciples left empty, or did they fill it with a new member? Apostles are prophets, seers and revelators...they are always necessary, and organization of the Church is clear. Where are your Church's revelators and prophets? Where's your council of twelve? Your Church is in Apostasy...being a branch off from another Apostate organization does your religion no good.

Surly you don't believe that Judas was a prophet. The disciples are never called prophets and Judas's replacement was a teacher just as the other 11 were. There are many in the church today who are called of God and they are not prophets either.

So the Church of Latter Day Saints is like the Adventist Church, the only true and chosen church, well you guys battle that one out while most of the protestants keep doing God's work.

As for the 1000 years as 1 day from the Book of Peter, is a statement that time has no meaning to the eternal God.

Interpretation. Another reason why your Church is false: it must interpret everything it pulls from the Bible. If God could reveal the truth of scripture to you, you would be in a much better position to argue your points.

What, you mean because we believe when Peter said,"a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day to God," that makes us a false church. Seems to me Peter was telling us that time has no meaning to an eternal God. Personally I'll take the word of Christ's disciple over a false prophet any day.

As for the spiritual death, why after that day did God not walk with men until Christ came. God would walk in the Garden every evening with them, after that day God has not walked with man, we were separated from Him spiritually.

Right. That's why he appeared to Moses, or to any of the other prophets that came after Adam. That's why Angels still walked with man, right? Enoch definitely walked with God. You are a fool, and you cannot possibly hope to understand scripture. The Bible is flawed...you need spiritual eyes in order to understand what it says. Only Seers can reveal hidden meaning in long-decayed text such as the Bible. Are you a Seer?

Now that it fits your argument the Bible is not so flawed, wishy washy. God never walked with Moses as He did with Adam and Eve, God only allowed Moses to see His back because otherwise God's glory would have killed him. Yes Enoch walked with God, meaning he followed God with His whole heart, remember it was God who walked with Adam and Eve, not Adam and Eve who walked with God. The Bible is not flawed and my spiritual eyes they are the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is the one who opens up God's word to us.
Matthew 5:22 ...whoever says,'You fool!' will be liable to the hell of fire. I'll leave the verses after that to you to determine.

[Michael Schubert]

I can see why you would, you accept without question the man made Mormon religion of Joseph Smith, so why not evolution.

Uh oh! Someone has been listening to Pat Robertson, Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron.

Evolution is an inarguable fact, my friend. Evolution is how medications and vaccines are developed. Do you ever take medicine for a migraine or anything else? If so, thank an evolutionary scientist.

[Godscreated]

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So that's why Joesph Smith the con and druggie had to write another book, one I might add has no historical backing. Why would God see fit to inspire one book, then see it was flawed and directly bring writings to a secret place in a secret language to a single man. Why not correct the earlier one, would this have been simpler or not. If you kept your nose out of false teaching and actually study the Bible you might see the sensibility of scriptures.

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You're bad at doing research on something you're trying to convince people of. After Joseph Smith the con and druggie gave the world the Book of Mormon, he set about correcting the entire Bible. It's called the "Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible". He took a KJV and made inspired changes. Oh...this is the first you're hearing of this. Well, I'm so glad I can be the bearer of glad tidings and good will.

Just like the JW's did, write the word of God to fit their own religion, you and the JW's can fight that one out, seems the Mormons are at odds with all denominations.

Explain why the Mormon Church waited for about 100 years, before they added, of Jesus Christ to, The Church of Latter Day Saints, why?

I imagine it was to get rid of the stigma that had been attached to the word "Mormons". Putting Jesus Christ in the title was a way of bridging the gap with the rest of the Christian Community, to show that we do indeed worship Christ and believe in his Atoning Sacrifice.

But wait, you are saying from this and other post all other denominations are cults, why would the Mormon Church want to be associated with cults. the stigma they wanted to get rid of was Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon.

By the way, you can't get on to other people for spelling mistakes when you can't spell the "Moron Church" correctly. Hardy har.

I didn't say anything about your spelling and if you're speaking of MS, he misspells words all the time. I know my spelling is not that good, however my key board does not always print the letters out, so sorry it was not intentional.

I can see why you would, you accept without question the man made Mormon religion of Joseph Smith, so why not evolution.

Am I that transparent? Perhaps there are other factors here, but you simply are not asking the right questions to find out what they are. I'm sorry that I gave you the impression that I was gullible. Perhaps your first clue should have been that I wasn't taken in by your load of crap.

Because I challenge your religion as one of Christianity, I'm full of .... well. You make yourself fairly transparent and that is good, you do not hide what you believe.

Are you saying God created man twice, where does it state that?

Oh, you never heard of the Pre-Adamites?

You talking about the apes evolutionist say we came from, because if you're not I know you did not get that from the Bible. That's what I was asking how did you get that understanding from Genesis.

Creation 1
"God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." - Genesis 1:27

Creation 2
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." - Genesis 2:7

This takes place after the Seventh Day of Rest. The Garden of Eden account could have taken place at any point in man's history.

Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord made the earth and heaven.
This must be referring to another planet and heavens then, since it came after the day of rest.

Genesis 2:7 then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.
(8 And the Lord God planted a garden in Eden, in the east, and there He put the man whom He had formed.

So which creation is Adam and who was the pre-Adamite. You choose, the one created in God's image or the one formed from the ground. If evolution had a part in it then the one created in God's image could not have been part of evolution. That would put the pre-Adamite in the Garden. You have really got this story turned up side down.

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Why would God use evolution, do you believe he is not omnipotent, and why would days in heaven be longer than on earth, when in actuality heaven is eternal time does not exist there. Why is the order of creation nonsensical, because science says it is, do you believe God is so flawed He doesn't know what order He was to use in creating. [hide]

Not because Science "says so", but because Science proves it to be nonsensical. You believing in it at face value is quite nonsensical.

So you're saying man's science is smarter than God, science did not prove any order, it claims an order through evolution.

If God used Evolution to create man, then such is his prerogative, you nincompoop. Being Omniscient, he knew before hand that nature would pop out a man in his own image, or have you not thought of that?

This nincompoop, relies on the omniscience of God to have created and made everything as He said. If you're relying on your 1000 year equals 1 day deal, that's not enough time for evolution to work. So no poping out a man in God's image by evolution.

God is not flawed; the men writing about him were. The men copying down those ancient manuscripts were also flawed. Even Joseph Smith was flawed when he was translating the Book of Mormon. Modern-day revelation is the only way to be sure of anything that comes from God!

I like the start of your comment,"God is not flawed." Being flawless don't you think He would make sure His word would stay in contact down through the ages. We know The book of Jeremiah has held since at least 300 BC or later till this day, about 2300 years.

[hide]Where in Genesis does it say God created man and woman, it says He took man and created Him in His image, all other passages say God made them, the man from the dust of the earth and woman from the man, and then put (blew) the breath of life in them.

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[Esquilax]

Oh my god, I feel like I should have popcorn.

Also, I might add, this is the first time someone has ever been stupid regarding evolution and I haven't felt a desire to correct them. It's like... this is magical.