Evidence?

[Darwinian]

natural selection is not fact its theory. Fact is proven. Evonlution isnt as theology isnt.

i also BELIEVE that any Human who believes that we are the same as an animal is a naive fool.
We have a intelligence of great magnitude that no animal could ever surpass.
The human brain is so vastly complicated. what makes us feel. how do we have a concionce. our emotions are vastly complicated. we can talk, we can do anything an animal can times 100.

what makes us so special

because i think something has to make us like this.

Oooh! You've made Sir mad now!

Evolution by natural selection most certainly is a fact. There is now so much evidence from the fossil records all the way through to the study of the genome to support it that to consider it otherwise shows a breathtaking and arrogant ignorance of the subject.

Just because something is a theory does not mean that it has not been proven.

Human beings are animals. Of course we are. To assume otherwise is again a sign of absolute arrogance and misplaced superiority. Your mistake is to look at other animals and think how different we are from them rather than to look at humans and think how similar we are to other animals.

And what makes you think that the likes of Dolphins don't have an analogous intellect to us? What makes you presume that Chimps and Gorillas don't feel emotions as we do? And for your information, linguistic communication isn't the only way to talk.

If you really think that there is something special about humans that makes them so incredibly superior to anything that the rest of the animal kingdom can show and thus we must have been created by the God of the bible then I think it fair to say that you are the naive fool!

[zoso]

My last message on the subject and probably on this website

Atheism may be logical but one day you will need an answer for yourself that no science can give.

If it comes to this please please look towards religion prefrebly the bible.
It will give you all the best answers to live your life in peace.

I have only very recently become a christian and it is helping me understand more about life and how best to live/enjoy it than any atheism belief.

You may say its a control over life but it will always lead to a good life never an evil one if you understand it.

And even if you dont and wont ever believe. Read it anyway. Prove theologists and christians wrong by what you've read and understood from their holy book. Its a very interesting book with great stories, Psycological excellence and a great plot. At the least its a very entertaining book. You'll feel happier and accomplished having read it.

Peace to you all people

Dont let your logic cloud your judgement.

The most intelligent men can still be the most foolish.

[Violet]

i have read the post on the tectonic plates i can direct the line from the diagram.
but on the depth of the ocean map it shows that the "crack" is 4000m below sea level and the ocean next to it is 11000 below sea level. why arnt the rest of the plates visable on ocean depth like this. why is this "crack" so clear?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Atlant...ymetry.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tecton...led-en.svg
How interesting... mountains (mid atlantic range) and valleys (East African) are sometimes related to tectonic movement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain Valley is the opposite process.

Got to love those hit-and-run theists, eh Dar?

[lilphil1989]

Dont let your logic cloud your judgement.

That is most definitely going in my sig

[chatpilot]

zoso I have read the bible four times and it has shown me the complete opposite of everything you are stating it does for you. Thanks Darwinian for covering the NS fact issue I was going to reply but decided that he must be suffering from the God complex and thought better to just leave it alone.

[fr0d0]

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fr0d0,you said "Again you attack my belief as if millenia of eeking out the truth is somehow invalid because it doesn't employ scientific verification where that is shown not to apply."

The so called eeking out truth is invalid if it is being sought in the realms of superstition based on ignorance and fear. The Christian worldview is the same as all the former religions that preceeded it. When tragedy strikes a tribe;God is angry, sacrifices must be made to gain his favor (O.T.), when good things happen; God is happy. Judaism follows the same formula of all religious mythologies of old, is this a coincidence?

Sin+sacrifice=redemption before Christ it was various animal sacrifices to appease or keep Jehova happy. The sacrifices were not sufficient enough to completely redeem man before god so then we needed a more perfect sacrifice. In comes Christ. Christianity is nothing more than an updated version of this age old formula.

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You know Chatpilot I find it fascinating your refusal to address my point and then regurgitate your warped reasoning.

I think you're on this crusade against ignorance and I wonder ....why? Why waste your time with it? Why not be like the rest of us and move on. Why try to take on real logic and make yourself look as foolish as those other fools you mock?

[zoso]

zoso I have read the bible four times and it has shown me the complete opposite of everything you are stating it does for you. Thanks Darwinian for covering the NS fact issue I was going to reply but decided that he must be suffering from the God complex and thought better to just leave it alone.

if so then you havent understood mathew 13

"though seeing, they do not see;
through hearing, they do not hear or understand."

you are seeing but havent seen

Anyway guys you know more than me on the subject of evolution. iv always found it ludicrus as you all do with religion.

Just keep in ya heads, were all different and all the same. Love and trust people and you'll be rewarded even in life.

End of the day we all want to live in harmony no matter what we believe is true.

Peace out guys you win the argument. It hasn't steared me otherwise, i just simply give up because i admit i have little knowledge on the subject. Just wondered what an atheist/evolutionist views are on the matter.

Toodles peace have a gud un

[chatpilot]

No zoso what happened to me was more like 1 Corinthians 13:11

11.When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Religious belief in my view is childish.

[Darwinian]

zoso I have read the bible four times and it has shown me the complete opposite of everything you are stating it does for you. Thanks Darwinian for covering the NS fact issue I was going to reply but decided that he must be suffering from the God complex and thought better to just leave it alone.

if so then you havent understood mathew 13

"though seeing, they do not see;
through hearing, they do not hear or understand."

you are seeing but havent seen

Anyway guys you know more than me on the subject of evolution. iv always found it ludicrus as you all do with religion.

Just keep in ya heads, were all different and all the same. Love and trust people and you'll be rewarded even in life.

End of the day we all want to live in harmony no matter what we believe is true.

Peace out guys you win the argument. It hasn't steared me otherwise, i just simply give up because i admit i have little knowledge on the subject. Just wondered what an atheist/evolutionist views are on the matter.

Toodles peace have a gud un

Well, perhaps you should take some time out to properly study this fascinating subject and then come back when you have and we can discuss it with you.

[fr0d0]

Haha I think he nailed you there CP