Christians, why are you hear (If you want to convert atheists read this)

[Drich]

Wow drich thank you for demonstrating why atheism is the better position. You see in order to answer those questions you had to launch into very complex and sometime contradictory answers and even still you demonstrated that your god is immoral and has your own athropirmorphozed limitions.

show me line by line.give me two examples. Give me something other than a wordy bluff and a move to dismissal of everything I said with out having to address anything I said. This isn't the mid 80's anymore it takes more than an appeal to a few big words to establish yourself in a conversation as an authority. Conversation has evolved past empty gestures and has moved into actual substance. In other words one must prove what they say with example and proof/reference material.

. Then comes occams razor. And occam was a christian too.

This will be an excellent example of the 'proof' I was asking to to provide for me in you general dismissal above. For here I will take your statement examine it, compare it to know fact quote my reference material leave a link and provide a summary based on my findings.

I do not believe you know what Occam's razor is who it was named for, his beliefs or why it was named after 'him.'

Occam is not a person's name. It is a place. The closest person who could take credit for the razor was William OF Occam. Even so he did not invent the razor. He was a medevil philosopher, who was not a Christian. He was a nominalist. (Look it up for yourself.) nominalism clashes with Christianity, one can not be both. The razor was attributed to him because his peers observed him use the razor even though he did not personally identify it or write about it.

The reason I do not believe that you know what it is, is because you have appealed to it as a rule of logic, whe. It's not. It's a simple proverb or maxim. It's a good rule of thumb, that's it that's all. Even science shuns this maxim when 'proof' lead it in the opposite direction.

Now before you respond read my source material. If you wish to contest the source material, find a greater source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

In short that is how you dismiss something someone says nowadays. If you want to dismiss all that I said do some research and strike what I said down line by line.

And btw the golden rule was started with confucius who live around the 4th century bc

instead of embarrassing you a second time with anymore pomp and pageantry I will go back and just correcting what you wrote.
The golden rule is a drivitive of the second greatest command given to Moses around 1500 BC. "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

In your answer to 5 you say that punishment is eternal but the soulbis not eternal in hell, that is contradictory wording.

How so? Where in the bible, or if not in the bible how did you come to understand that all souls are immortal?

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Or you can scroll up, you asshole. I'm on my computer now, but you're being a dick, so I won't copy it to you. I'll instead give you a hint: it's post #42. Now kindly answer my question that I put to you in my last post.

No post numbers on the mobile version of the web site

[Bad Writer]

What, are you on your mobile too? Anyway, you used an appeal to faith as your greatest reason to believe. There have have been numerous instances of this, so I shouldn't have to quote you on it. If you have a beef with yourself using faith, then I suggest you seek therapy for being at odds with yourself suddenly.

[Lemonvariable72]

Wow drich thank you for demonstrating why atheism is the better position. You see in order to answer those questions you had to launch into very complex and sometime contradictory answers and even still you demonstrated that your god is immoral and has your own athropirmorphozed limitions.

show me line by line.give me two examples. Give me something other than a wordy bluff and a move to dismissal of everything I said with out having to address anything I said. This isn't the mid 80's anymore it takes more than an appeal to a few big words to establish yourself in a conversation as an authority. Conversation has evolved past empty gestures and has moved into actual substance. In other words one must prove what they say with example and proof/reference material.

. Then comes occams razor. And occam was a christian too.

This will be an excellent example of the 'proof' I was asking to to provide for me in you general dismissal above. For here I will take your statement examine it, compare it to know fact quote my reference material leave a link and provide a summary based on my findings.

I do not believe you know what Occam's razor is who it was named for, his beliefs or why it was named after 'him.'

Occam is not a person's name. It is a place. The closest person who could take credit for the razor was William OF Occam. Even so he did not invent the razor. He was a medevil philosopher, who was not a Christian. He was a nominalist. (Look it up for yourself.) nominalism clashes with Christianity, one can not be both. The razor was attributed to him because his peers observed him use the razor even though he did not personally identify it or write about it.

The reason I do not believe that you know what it is, is because you have appealed to it as a rule of logic, whe. It's not. It's a simple proverb or maxim. It's a good rule of thumb, that's it that's all. Even science shuns this maxim when 'proof' lead it in the opposite direction.

Now before you respond read my source material. If you wish to contest the source material, find a greater source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

In short that is how you dismiss something someone says nowadays. If you want to dismiss all that I said do some research and strike what I said down line by line.

And btw the golden rule was started with confucius who live around the 4th century bc

instead of embarrassing you a second time with anymore pomp and pageantry I will go back and just correcting what you wrote.
The golden rule is a drivitive of the second greatest command given to Moses around 1500 BC. "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

In your answer to 5 you say that punishment is eternal but the soulbis not eternal in hell, that is contradictory wording.

How so? Where in the bible, or if not in the bible how did you come to understand that all souls are immortal?

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Or you can scroll up, you asshole. I'm on my computer now, but you're being a dick, so I won't copy it to you. I'll instead give you a hint: it's post #42. Now kindly answer my question that I put to you in my last post.

No post numbers on the mobile version of the web site

Drich the golden rule does not appear in the OT. If it does quote the scripture and i will stand corrected. Now the reason my point stands is simple, you provide no evidence to back up your answers, or the conjecture you source. Infact in a earlier post you said is not up to the believer to provide evidence. So since you have no evidence to back up yourassertions made in your answers occams razor stands. You are correct in so far as stating that occams razor only applies when the evidence is equal. In this it is valid.
To simplify: to test the god hypothesis I ask a serious of question like above and you answer with highly complex answers. I as a atheist have to simply say there is no christian god. Since have provided 0 evidence to establish your god is real; and my hypothesis is far simpler occams razor falls in my favor

[Tonus]

Leviticus 19:18 has a quote similar to the golden rule. As part of a set of commands that govern behavior towards others, the Israelites are told to "love your neighbor as [you love] yourself."

[Chas]

Do you mean Epicurus?

[Lemonvariable72]

Leviticus 19:18 has a quote similar to the golden rule. As part of a set of commands that govern behavior towards others, the Israelites are told to "love your neighbor as [you love] yourself."

Infortunately thats taking it out of context, and isrealite only

[max-greece]

Leviticus 19:18 has a quote similar to the golden rule. As part of a set of commands that govern behavior towards others, the Israelites are told to "love your neighbor as [you love] yourself."

Infortunately thats taking it out of context, and isrealite only

So was Jesus' version in Mark - Israelite only that is, but no-one ever notices.