Abiogenesis is impossible

[Cyberman]

Little is worse than a tainted taint.

[Whateverist]

If the sin nature is that which proceeds out through the taint I intend to sin big time this morning. Oh baby. Where's my newspaper?

[JesusHChrist]

Little is worse than a tainted taint.

Tainted love might be worse.

Oooh, tainted love....

[Whateverist]

You're singing Vorlon's song now.

[robvalue]

My soul is my body and my mind... That's a new one.

So what is my mind? And what percentage of my soul is in my body but not my mind? And my brain is part of my body isn't it, so isn't some of my soul in it?

I find these things tend to be a merry-go-round of definitions.

[Tonus]

I think it'll take a while for the notion that the mind is simply a part of the brain to catch on. Researchers are starting to discover a lot of things about how the brain works but I think they're just scratching the surface right now. So imagine that in 30-40 years theists will drop the whole "mind is separate from body" nonsense and scrounge around for some other minuscule gap to fit god into.

[robvalue]

Yeah, right. I don't know how people can go around equating the metaphorical idea of a soul with someone undeniably real with no evidence whatsoever. It also implies to me that they either have no idea the lengths science has spent studying these things, or that they simply think they know better.

[DramaQueen]

This thread is still alive hock:

[snowtracks]

all these life experiments involve an outside mindful agency.

You mean outside like, in the same room but not in the experimental chamber?
How far away does the experimenter have to be to satisfy your demand that he not be involved?

Setting up some situation that plausibly might have been found on the early earth doesn't invalidate the demonstration that abiogenesis could have happened that way.
It isn't overcoming a 10^-50 barrier. It is just setting up the experiment so that you can have results in less than a lifetime instead of a billion years.

I do differ with the article's calling DNA life's software. Firmware maybe.

An example from synthetic biology that took a team of researchers 15 years: The engineering of an alien based pair (prototyped after the nucleotide structuring configuration of the famous double helix) into an bacterium E. coli. A substantial scientific achievement, but it’s just a single pair of foreign DNA bases out of millions. Lab accomplishments like this supports the creation model since it requires researchers using pre-planning creativity, rethinking, and redoing using preexisting functional material and working models. None of which is available by just physical means.
http://www.nature.com/news/first-life-wi...na-1.15179

[JesusHChrist]

There is no fucking creation model. It's just poof! Done.

No explanation.