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A Matter of Faith
#31
RE: A Matter of Faith
(October 8, 2013 at 11:33 pm)cato123 Wrote:
(October 7, 2013 at 5:16 pm)Drich Wrote: If God is real then wouldn't the best evidence of God, be God? So why wouldn't "Because God..." be a viable answer?

I think "Because Cato's dick..." works just as well.

I think that's an expression I'll start using. "By Cato's dick, I will."
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#32
RE: A Matter of Faith
(October 8, 2013 at 11:37 pm)Chas Wrote:
(October 8, 2013 at 11:33 pm)cato123 Wrote: I think "Because Cato's dick..." works just as well.

I think that's an expression I'll start using. "By Cato's dick, I will."

Doctor: "Chas, don't be a baby. I have to check your tonsils. Now if a tongue depressor is out for you, what alternative do you suggest?"

:p
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#33
RE: A Matter of Faith
(October 8, 2013 at 10:35 pm)Ryantology Wrote:
(October 8, 2013 at 9:45 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Yes. I wonder that all the time.

And what is it that has made you go "but that's obviously not actually happening" thus far?
Because my study of philosophy confirms the tenants of my faith. By temperament I question both religious doctrines and the assumption s of atheism.
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#34
RE: A Matter of Faith
What assumptions does atheism make? Besides none, that is.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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#35
RE: A Matter of Faith
Mostly ontological naturalism.
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#36
RE: A Matter of Faith
(October 9, 2013 at 8:51 am)ChadWooters Wrote:
(October 8, 2013 at 10:35 pm)Ryantology Wrote: And what is it that has made you go "but that's obviously not actually happening" thus far?
Because my study of philosophy confirms the tenants of my faith. By temperament I question both religious doctrines and the assumption s of atheism.

What assumptions?
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#37
RE: A Matter of Faith
(October 9, 2013 at 8:51 am)ChadWooters Wrote:
(October 8, 2013 at 10:35 pm)Ryantology Wrote: And what is it that has made you go "but that's obviously not actually happening" thus far?
Because my study of philosophy confirms the tenants of my faith. By temperament I question both religious doctrines and the assumption s of atheism.

The tenants of your faith are in your church with you.

The tenets of your faith are written in a book.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#38
RE: A Matter of Faith
(October 7, 2013 at 4:06 pm)Freedom Wrote: I have a question about faith for believers, and I continue to run into a brick wall. So evidently I am asking the wrong question.

I want to know from Christians how they can know for certain that they are not simply inventing a god in their imaginations. However, when I ask Christians this question, I get an answer that starts with "Because God..."

...

This still assumes a god. It's as if they cannot see that they are using their imaginations. If I said that I believe in Qhiapwe, Christians would tell me that Qhiapwe is not real. Then I'd say "Qhiapwe is the creator of everything, and Qhiapwe lives in my heart." Now I just made up that name, but you get my point.

How can I get this through to believers?

To believers: Can you consider the possibility that your beliefs are the result of you using a creative imagination?
Huh? I didn't just imagine a god on my own, then find out that it corresponds to the god of the Bible.
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#39
RE: A Matter of Faith
(October 10, 2013 at 10:03 am)John V Wrote: Huh? I didn't just imagine a god on my own, then find out that it corresponds to the god of the Bible.

No, you were brainwashed at some point by other Christians and then you decided that Christianity sounded good.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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