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godless pro-lifers
#41
RE: godless pro-lifers
(October 9, 2013 at 9:53 pm)Max_Kolbe Wrote:
(October 9, 2013 at 9:32 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Newsflash, Max. Atheists can be and do anything.

Being an atheist doesn't mean one can't be 'pro-life'.

So I don't understand the point of your post?

No particular point. Just thought it was interesting and wanted to share it with other open minded, skeptical, intelligent folk who appreciate free flow of ideas and approach all things with reason and logic.

Atheist CANNOT be anything. They cannot be God.

If this is in jest, ignore the following:

Depends on what you define as god. Also, autotheism.

(October 13, 2013 at 6:23 pm)Zazzy Wrote: Embryos are not babies.

Also this.
No creator in the heavens above (I am the lightning)
Rest your weary mind
No demons in the furnace below (I am the frenzy)
I have realized I AM GOD
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#42
RE: godless pro-lifers
(October 13, 2013 at 6:37 pm)Dunno Wrote:
(October 13, 2013 at 6:23 pm)Zazzy Wrote: Embryos are not babies.

a man who shaves doesn't have facial hair.
You're an idiot.
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#43
RE: godless pro-lifers
(October 13, 2013 at 6:37 pm)Dunno Wrote:
(October 13, 2013 at 6:23 pm)Zazzy Wrote: Embryos are not babies.

a man who shaves doesn't have facial hair.
Except he does, underneath the surface of his skin.

A clown with lizards has no condoms.
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#44
RE: godless pro-lifers
(October 13, 2013 at 7:04 pm)Zazzy Wrote:
(October 13, 2013 at 6:37 pm)Dunno Wrote: a man who shaves doesn't have facial hair.
Except he does, underneath the surface of his skin.

A clown with lizards has no condoms.

However, a lizard with no condoms is a clown.
No creator in the heavens above (I am the lightning)
Rest your weary mind
No demons in the furnace below (I am the frenzy)
I have realized I AM GOD
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#45
RE: godless pro-lifers
I personally believe abortion is wrong. I don't support it, I like other options. But, I don't think abortion should be illegal. Not at all. What we need is education and other ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy. In this way, hopefully in the future, abortion will be rare. Pro Lifers, Republicans, etc go about it all wrong. Banning abortion will not stop it. They laugh at those who want to ban guns, or increase gun control as obviously, that won't stop criminals from getting guns. It's the same thing with abortion. Making it illegal will not stop it, we need to tackle it from the core.
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#46
RE: godless pro-lifers
(October 13, 2013 at 7:53 pm)SouthernAtheist Wrote: I personally believe abortion is wrong. I don't support it, I like other options. But, I don't think abortion should be illegal. Not at all. What we need is education and other ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy. In this way, hopefully in the future, abortion will be rare. Pro Lifers, Republicans, etc go about it all wrong. Banning abortion will not stop it. They laugh at those who want to ban guns, or increase gun control as obviously, that won't stop criminals from getting guns. It's the same thing with abortion. Making it illegal will not stop it, we need to tackle it from the core.
Agreed. We have pretty good birth control methods, and if we really made a concentrated effort to teach everyone about them and make them easily accessible, abortion would be very rare. Unfortunately, the real motive of the anti-choice pitbulls is to control women and girls, so we won't be doing the right thing any time soon.

And you are the type of person who deserves the label pro-life (instead of anti-choice), because you aren't foisting your personal beliefs on others, and you genuinely care about the health and well-being of women.

(October 13, 2013 at 7:31 pm)Heir Apparent Wrote:
(October 13, 2013 at 7:04 pm)Zazzy Wrote: Except he does, underneath the surface of his skin.

A clown with lizards has no condoms.

However, a lizard with no condoms is a clown.
Touche, sir. I recognize when I am defeated in debate. I do notice, however, that you did not specify the type of lizard, which leaves room for me to insert a creator, as well as to suspect your unwavering support for unhatched lizard rights.

This must be what it feels like to be Grace, except with a better vocabulary.
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#47
RE: godless pro-lifers
Quote:I personally believe abortion is wrong. I don't support it, I like other options. But, I don't think abortion should be illegal.


I have no problem with your position....even though I think there are situations where abortion should be fucking mandatory.
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#48
RE: godless pro-lifers
I feel I should point out that being pro-life does not necessarily mean one is a misogynist. You can certainly be both, but you can also be one or the other (or neither).

I would describe myself as pro-life. I don't hate women at all though.

The whole "you can't control what I do with my vagina" argument is a bit silly though. It's like "you can't control what I do with my hands". Well, if you use them to strangle someone, then yes, society can. Context is important.
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#49
RE: godless pro-lifers
(October 13, 2013 at 8:20 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I feel I should point out that being pro-life does not necessarily mean one is a misogynist. You can certainly be both, but you can also be one or the other (or neither).

I would describe myself as pro-life. I don't hate women at all though.

The whole "you can't control what I do with my vagina" argument is a bit silly though. It's like "you can't control what I do with my hands". Well, if you use them to strangle someone, then yes, society can. Context is important.
Firstly, I have yet to hear a pro-life argument that isn't pure misogyny.

Secondly, your "using your hands to strangle someone" thing is a false analogy. A slightly better analogy would be "using your hands to kill a wasp."
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#50
RE: godless pro-lifers
(October 13, 2013 at 8:25 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Firstly, I have yet to hear a pro-life argument that isn't pure misogyny.
I have. I've yet to hear an argument in pro-life favor that withstands reason, but not all of them are hand-in-hand with misogyny.
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