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January 10, 2015 at 3:38 am
Oh right! I keep getting mail that's meant to be for them. Always stuff about business plans for donut factories.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 10, 2015 at 10:27 am
(January 9, 2015 at 8:25 am)Rhythm Wrote: You don't seem to understand what the term "self defeating" means He should probably look up the definition of "ironic" while he's at it.
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January 10, 2015 at 10:37 am
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(January 10, 2015 at 3:14 am)snowtracks Wrote: science is the study of how God did it, hardly a conflict. -And all that we've managed to determine about this is:
1- however "god did it", if a god did it..... you, personally, don't have a clue -about it-.
2- the manner in which "god did it" is indistinguishable from there being no god doing anything whatsoever.
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January 10, 2015 at 12:22 pm
(January 10, 2015 at 3:27 am)snowtracks Wrote: "@snowtracks
also heaven and hell if they both exist would to be subject to entropy."
are you forgetting something? which is - they exist outside of the physics of the universe.
How convenient. Next, you're going to bafflegab - and fail - about how we can possibly know anything at all about them.
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January 10, 2015 at 12:25 pm
(January 10, 2015 at 3:32 am)robvalue Wrote: Ah, that is very common for all religous things huh. Just outside of where you can tell they are actually anything at all. Does that area have a post code? 
Well, Belinda Carlisle said heaven is a place on Earth. And OPM thinks heaven is a halfpipe. I recommend emailing them for further details.
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January 10, 2015 at 12:26 pm
(January 10, 2015 at 3:27 am)snowtracks Wrote: "@snowtracks
also heaven and hell if they both exist would to be subject to entropy."
are you forgetting something? which is - they exist outside of the physics of the universe.
No, because physics has the Spirally Purple Underscore property, which means it can affect things that exist outside the physics of the universe.
See? If you can just define a problem out of existence by fiat assertion, I can just define the problem back into existence the same way. But this shit gets us nowhere, so how about you actually, you know, justify any of the things you say?
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January 10, 2015 at 12:29 pm
(January 10, 2015 at 12:26 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (January 10, 2015 at 3:27 am)snowtracks Wrote: "@snowtracks
also heaven and hell if they both exist would to be subject to entropy."
are you forgetting something? which is - they exist outside of the physics of the universe.
No, because physics has the Spirally Purple Underscore property, which means it can affect things that exist outside the physics of the universe.
See? If you can just define a problem out of existence by fiat assertion, I can just define the problem back into existence the same way. But this shit gets us nowhere, so how about you actually, you know, justify any of the things you say?
The heat death of hell and heaven.
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January 10, 2015 at 3:49 pm
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Quote:THERMODYNAMICS ACCORDING TO ISAIAH
The temperature of Heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is the Bible, Isaiah 30:26, describing Heaven: Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven days. Thus, Heaven receives from the moon as much radiation as the Earth does from the sun, and in addition seven times seven (forty-nine) times as much as the Earth does from the sun, or 50 times in all. The light we receive from the moon is 1/10,000 of the light we receive from the sun, so we can ignore that. The radiation falling on Heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation, i.e., Heaven loses 50 times as much heat as the Earth by radiation. Using the Stephan-Boltzmann fourth power law for radiation, we have (H/E)4= 50 where E is the absolute temperature of the Earth, 300 K (27 C). This gives H, the absolute temperature of Heaven, as 798 K (525 C)! (For old-fashioned Americans, that’s close to 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Your kitchen oven won’t get nearly that hot.)
The exact temperature of Hell cannot be computed. However, Revelation 21:8 says: But the fearful and unbelieving… shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone. A lake of molten brimstone (or sulfur) means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, 444.6 C (above that point, it would be a vapor, not a lake). We have, then, that Heaven, at 525 C, is hotter than Hell, at less than 445 C.
So who says that the Bible has no accurate and useful scientific data?
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January 10, 2015 at 3:54 pm
(January 10, 2015 at 3:49 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Nominally related:
Quote:THERMODYNAMICS ACCORDING TO ISAIAH
The temperature of Heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is the Bible, Isaiah 30:26, describing Heaven: Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven days. Thus, Heaven receives from the moon as much radiation as the Earth does from the sun, and in addition seven times seven (forty-nine) times as much as the Earth does from the sun, or 50 times in all. The light we receive from the moon is 1/10,000 of the light we receive from the sun, so we can ignore that. The radiation falling on Heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation, i.e., Heaven loses 50 times as much heat as the Earth by radiation. Using the Stephan-Boltzmann fourth power law for radiation, we have (H/E)4= 50 where E is the absolute temperature of the Earth, 300 K (27 C). This gives H, the absolute temperature of Heaven, as 798 K (525 C)! (For old-fashioned Americans, that’s close to 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Your kitchen oven won’t get nearly that hot.)
The exact temperature of Hell cannot be computed. However, Revelation 21:8 says: But the fearful and unbelieving… shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone. A lake of molten brimstone (or sulfur) means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, 444.6 C (above that point, it would be a vapor, not a lake). We have, then, that Heaven, at 525 C, is hotter than Hell, at less than 445 C.
So who says that the Bible has no accurate and useful scientific data?
So that's why everyone is naked in heaven...
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January 11, 2015 at 7:27 am
(January 10, 2015 at 3:49 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Nominally related:
Quote:THERMODYNAMICS ACCORDING TO ISAIAH
The temperature of Heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is the Bible, Isaiah 30:26, describing Heaven: Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven days. Thus, Heaven receives from the moon as much radiation as the Earth does from the sun, and in addition seven times seven (forty-nine) times as much as the Earth does from the sun, or 50 times in all. The light we receive from the moon is 1/10,000 of the light we receive from the sun, so we can ignore that. The radiation falling on Heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation, i.e., Heaven loses 50 times as much heat as the Earth by radiation. Using the Stephan-Boltzmann fourth power law for radiation, we have (H/E)4= 50 where E is the absolute temperature of the Earth, 300 K (27 C). This gives H, the absolute temperature of Heaven, as 798 K (525 C)! (For old-fashioned Americans, that’s close to 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Your kitchen oven won’t get nearly that hot.)
The exact temperature of Hell cannot be computed. However, Revelation 21:8 says: But the fearful and unbelieving… shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone. A lake of molten brimstone (or sulfur) means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, 444.6 C (above that point, it would be a vapor, not a lake). We have, then, that Heaven, at 525 C, is hotter than Hell, at less than 445 C.
So who says that the Bible has no accurate and useful scientific data?
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