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Deny Science and you Don't get to Use Science
#11
RE: Deny Science and you Don't get to Use Science
You got me.

I was just spinning a example off the top of my head. And I am aware that the Shroud of Turin isn't actually 2000 years old.
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#12
RE: Deny Science and you Don't get to Use Science
(October 28, 2009 at 10:23 am)Meatball Wrote: And I am aware that the Shroud of Turin isn't actually 2000 years old.

Yeah I figured you were being sarcastic. I doubt it is 2000 years old too. I, personally, do not think it has anything to do with Jesus.
#13
RE: Deny Science and you Don't get to Use Science
(October 28, 2009 at 8:24 am)rjh4 Wrote:
(October 27, 2009 at 5:01 pm)Meatball Wrote: They don't trust carbon dating for dinosaur fossils,
But keep in mind, no evolutionist would trust carbon dating for dinosaur fossils either.

You got proof of this? reason i am asking is a paleobotanist is renting my flat out who swears by carbon dating (used along with other geological dating used by paleontologists).

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#14
RE: Deny Science and you Don't get to Use Science
As Adrian said, radiometric dating, not carbon dating.

"Carbon dating" has become a term for any method of dating old stuff anymore, but actual carbon dating doesent do that well.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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#15
RE: Deny Science and you Don't get to Use Science
(October 28, 2009 at 9:54 pm)theblindferrengi Wrote: As Adrian said, radiometric dating, not carbon dating.

"Carbon dating" has become a term for any method of dating old stuff anymore, but actual carbon dating doesent do that well.

I think the term "carbon dating" is stuck, though as you say it is wrong

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#16
RE: Deny Science and you Don't get to Use Science
(October 28, 2009 at 9:51 pm)AngelaRachnid Wrote:
(October 28, 2009 at 8:24 am)rjh4 Wrote:
(October 27, 2009 at 5:01 pm)Meatball Wrote: They don't trust carbon dating for dinosaur fossils,
But keep in mind, no evolutionist would trust carbon dating for dinosaur fossils either.

You got proof of this? reason i am asking is a paleobotanist is renting my flat out who swears by carbon dating (used along with other geological dating used by paleontologists).

A

Its quite easy to find by querying Google for carbon's half life.
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1997/MargaretKong.shtml
http://science.howstuffworks.com/carbon-142.htm

This isn't to say Carbon Dating is unreliable, but it does demonstrate its limits.
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#17
RE: Deny Science and you Don't get to Use Science
I agree somewhat. Not all science has something to do with other science. Such as the science used to prove the big bang or evolution may not be the same science used to make a car or computer.

If someone can point out where the same science is used it would be helpful if you could point it out.
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#18
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(October 27, 2009 at 6:57 pm)AngelaRachnid Wrote: I thought of a similar idea with AR people deny them all the stuff that has resulted from animal research, but apart from moving them all to a desert island to fend for themselves it would be impossible.

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That's a little different, since animals exist.
#19
RE: Deny Science and you Don't get to Use Science
(October 30, 2009 at 4:12 pm)solarwave Wrote: I agree somewhat. Not all science has something to do with other science. Such as the science used to prove the big bang or evolution may not be the same science used to make a car or computer.

If someone can point out where the same science is used it would be helpful if you could point it out.

You don't think there might be a little physics or biology in cars and computers? Nothing to do with engine efficiency, fuel source, pcb manufacturing, etc?

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RE: Deny Science and you Don't get to Use Science
While you're at it the group Boko Haram (which means western education is bad http://www.multidox.net/cgi-bin/page.pl?...y&bn=1&m=4) needs to deny modern communication devices, vehicles, weapons and medicine. If they want to live what they believe they need to go it the whole way. Lay down your bombs and guns and pick up your blood letting utensils.
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