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RE: How important is religion in the UK?
November 25, 2013 at 10:29 am
I would add caveat to the above.
Mainstream Christianity is unimportant to the demographic that it would normally speak to. However other religions such as Islam and so-called 'black' Churches are seeing a steady increase their uptake, mainly due to the cohort effect and larger family sizes.
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RE: How important is religion in the UK?
November 25, 2013 at 11:06 am
More important than hockey.
Less important than soccer.
Less important than tea or coffee.
More important than cocoa.
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RE: How important is religion in the UK?
November 25, 2013 at 4:16 pm
(November 23, 2013 at 2:15 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (November 23, 2013 at 11:18 am)Mr Greene Wrote: To all intents and purposes religion is dead in Britain.
It has effectively vanished from the streets over the past 30 years.
The only place I hear it discussed now is at work (I work in a mental health centre and the service users have a marked tendency to church-going) When I was a kid there were things like 'Songs of Praise' on the TV, that has long gone, indeed no religious programme seems able to run for a complete season before being pulled from the schedules now.
The concept of needing religion to define myself, whether culturally or in any other context seems rather alien.
I saw five seconds of songs of praise last week because the remote control was out of reach.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006ttc5
I think there is an obligation for the BBC to provide a certain amount of religious broadcasting no matter the viewing figures.
Although it looks like they have reduced it somewhat.
http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2013/0...broadcasts
It's back on the air?
Sure it got replaced by the Heaven & Earth show, before that got replaced by The Big Questions, which has now presumably been replaced by Songs of Praise...
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Re: RE: How important is religion in the UK?
November 25, 2013 at 5:41 pm
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(November 25, 2013 at 11:06 am)max-greece Wrote: More important than hockey.
Less important than soccer.
Less important than tea or coffee.
More important than cocoa. Soccer?
*kicks you in the face*
Coffee isn't important in the UK. Tea on the other hand... Tea comes before people. We've started wars over tea. (I tried telling my sister about the Opium Wars recently and she thought I was taking the piss lol)
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RE: How important is religion in the UK?
November 25, 2013 at 6:21 pm
(November 25, 2013 at 5:41 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: (November 25, 2013 at 11:06 am)max-greece Wrote: More important than hockey.
Less important than soccer.
Less important than tea or coffee.
More important than cocoa. Soccer?
*kicks you in the face*
Coffee isn't important in the UK. Tea on the other hand... Tea comes before people. We've started wars over tea. (I tried telling my sister about the Opium Wars recently and she thought I was taking the piss lol)
Tea may well start the next war also!
Well, the Tea Party actually.
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RE: How important is religion in the UK?
November 26, 2013 at 8:54 am
(November 25, 2013 at 6:21 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: (November 25, 2013 at 5:41 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Soccer?
*kicks you in the face*
Coffee isn't important in the UK. Tea on the other hand... Tea comes before people. We've started wars over tea. (I tried telling my sister about the Opium Wars recently and she thought I was taking the piss lol)
Tea may well start the next war also!
Well, the Tea Party actually. That war won't be as badass as getting a country hooked on Opium just so they'd want to trade.
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RE: How important is religion in the UK?
November 26, 2013 at 5:20 pm
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Yeah, we give good empire!
Gave I should say.
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RE: How important is religion in the UK?
November 27, 2013 at 11:59 am
It's my own experiences with fundamentalist religious dogma in the UK that led me to search out this forum in the first place. It feels to me as if religion has simply diversified, despite the official stats showing an overall decline. Nevertheless sucessive waves of immigration have introduced more religions and more (dare I say it) daft ideas which are being presented as fact, sometimes pushed in an even stronger way than it has been by my 'traditional British' christian peers. I mentioned in my intro thread that I had a few heated discussions with work colleagues about topics such as creationism and sexism, and I was quite shocked to witness how intense and passionate some of this dogmatic bollocks was spewn out. These events are probably more limited to the major urban centers (such as London where I was living and working until summer) where massive religious communities are able to thrive and feed one another's retarded viewpoints. I used to be a very tolerant person, and I still swing way to the left in terms of politics, and I still believe it's important for people to be allowed to hold really demented opinions. It's just incredibly soul destroying when you are forced to work with "scientists" who think that humans used to be 20 metres tall and that god wants women to wear bedsheets for the benefit of sexually frustrated men, especially when i'm constantly patronised and have to put up with this garbage being passed off as obvious truth, DURING WORK HOURS. Complaints would open up sucessive cans of worms, and would probably have me branded as a bigot, even though I'm far more dedicated to equal rights than these prejudiced pillocks.
The worst part of it all is that children are being indoctrinated with this bigoted horse shit from a young age, and are told that it is all unquestionable fact. It's very hard for most people to shake off these cultural signifiers when it's the only thing they've ever known, which is how we end up with doctors and scientists who believe profoundly unscientific things. I'm basically past the point of respecting or tolerating this element to diversity now. I respect people's right to hold opinions but that doesn't mean that I have to respect that actual content of the specific opinions. That's basically me saying that it's ok to be a homophobe or a sexist or to condone slavery. All these subjectivities can't coexist. You can't be completely liberal AND believe that certain dogmatic viewpoints are immoral. You can't have your cake and eat it, essentially.
I only hope that the official trend continues and that we end up like Estonia in which religion just doesn't play a significant role in cultural life any more.
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RE: How important is religion in the UK?
November 27, 2013 at 5:37 pm
(November 25, 2013 at 5:41 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: (November 25, 2013 at 11:06 am)max-greece Wrote: More important than hockey.
Less important than soccer.
Less important than tea or coffee.
More important than cocoa. Soccer?
*kicks you in the face*
Coffee isn't important in the UK. Tea on the other hand... Tea comes before people. We've started wars over tea. (I tried telling my sister about the Opium Wars recently and she thought I was taking the piss lol)
WRONG! Coffee is vital, every hour on the hour!
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Re: RE: How important is religion in the UK?
November 27, 2013 at 7:18 pm
(November 27, 2013 at 5:37 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: (November 25, 2013 at 5:41 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Soccer?
*kicks you in the face*
Coffee isn't important in the UK. Tea on the other hand... Tea comes before people. We've started wars over tea. (I tried telling my sister about the Opium Wars recently and she thought I was taking the piss lol)
WRONG! Coffee is vital, every hour on the hour! Bullshit. We drink 60,225,000,000 cups of tea a year, but only 25,550,000,000 cups of coffee. Coffee tastes like crap and can go fuck itself.
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