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World without religion.
#11
RE: World without religion.
If the muslims didn't waste so much time praying to their imaginary god every day they might have time to realize how badly they are getting fucked over by their rulers.
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#12
RE: World without religion.
In addition to the things already mentioned, a greater respect for rational discourse (versus stupid appeals to authority, etc.), an opportunity for students to learn what scientists -- especially biologists -- actually think as opposed to the twisted and dishonest strawmen religionists erect to mislead and gull the simple-minded, and a greater number of people worldwide making the most of the one life they know they have instead of indulging in childish wish-fulfillment, dreaming of some paradise in the great beyond.

Oh, and no more half-wits knocking on my door, trying to sell their spiritual snake oil.
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#13
RE: World without religion.
In the most fundamentalist religious areas of the world, there would be obvious, radical changes: no more girls with mutilated genitals or girls kept from school; equality for gay people; no more children kept from hospitals by parents who don't "believe" in medicine; no more girls force-married. These are all obviously good things.

The changes would be less earth-shattering for most of us, but I would enjoy a world without the constant battles over creationism in textbooks, and without the constant side-stepping of other people's religious in-your-faceness.

I would hope we wouldn't lose sacred music, though- you can't beat a sung mass for beauty.

I can't see that we'd lose much as a species by getting rid of religion. GodsRevolt, what do you think would be the negative impact on us as a species? Do you think the world would be a better place if we got rid of Islam? Of Mormonism? Of Wicca?
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#14
RE: World without religion.
(December 12, 2013 at 6:34 am)GodsRevolt Wrote: It has come up that the world is in dire straits because of religion. My question is- What do you, as an atheist, see a world without religion like?

I'm not asking if it is possible, but just what would be the end result if it did happen?

Well unlike anyone else on here I don't think much would change. If religion disappeared some other belief would probably immediately spring up to take its place. I have met people who believe in Astrology, Crystals, Feng Shui, Big Foot, the Lock Ness Monster, Alien Abduction and god knows what other kinds of woo bullshit.

Sadly - part of the human condition appears to be to believe in something more powerful than themselves or their species. What proportion of the human race is thus afflicted I do not know.
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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#15
RE: World without religion.
More hopelessness, dispare and tyranny.
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#16
RE: World without religion.
There will always be a percentage of the population that will need some sort of mental crutch to handle reality.
Depression would be more prevalent, with the absence of the kool aid...

Still.. it would be a more rational world... Smile
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#17
RE: World without religion.
(December 12, 2013 at 2:52 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: More hopelessness,
Why? I know many atheists, and they are not more hopeful or hopeless than the Christians I know. Although for many, especially girls, living in many fundamentalist areas must be pretty hopeless.
Quote: dispare

Again, why? I don't know any atheists in despair because they're atheists. I know some clinically depressed atheists and some clinically depressed theists who are pretty despairing, but this doesn't seem to be a religious thing. Unless, again, you count the despair of being 13 and married to a Mormon prophet, or not being allowed an education, or having your clitoris cut off.
Quote:and tyranny.
The most secular governments in the world today do not appear to be more tyrannical than, say, living under Islamic law, or the law of fundamentalist Mormon sects.
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#18
RE: World without religion.
Well people like me would certainly have more peace in such a world. No longer have to deal with fears or anger related to religion. A dream.
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#19
RE: World without religion.
Bluntly put it would be awesome. No more superstitious bullshit weighing us down into all kinds of things. It is not realistic though
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#20
RE: World without religion.
Religion came about as an elixir to the first big "oh shit" moment in mankind. When we became smart enough to realize we are going to die. Religion started as a coping mechanism for coming to terms with our own mortality. Our life begins at birth and ends at death. I am pretty sure life after death will closely approximate life before birth.
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