Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down

[ronedee]

Might make people less reliant on wishing magic to solve their problems if they weren't indoctrinated in it in every facet of their lives.

Might?

I'm not going to let you shift the burden of proof and indulge in arguments from ignorance, especially when... well, I think children dying of treatable ailments is a pretty big harm.

You're the one who started the "argument from ignorance". I'm just waiting for answers.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Giant swastika, overlooking your house. Big ass billboard right next to it, "paid for by this guy," with a big red arrow pointing directly down at your place: still cool? Can't regulate for content, right?

That would be liable.

Better yet, giant islamic symbol. Big ol' satanist pentagram.

It's a free country.

A monument village of every competing religion, on public land. You'd be fine with that?

If an area of public property allows and/or sets aside space for pfor the people to post messages, assemble, or erect displays, then they sould be allowed to do so. It's a free country, for now.

[JesusHChrist]

And since you can't prove it doesn't work... what harm does it do?

And you are pretending to know prayer does anything whatsoever. You know no such thing, can't demonstrate prayer has efficacy and have no epistemic basis for making such a claim.

Prayer is harmful if it is done in lieu of actually taking needed action as can be seen in countless, horrific medical examples. Or rather, horrific lack of proper medical care due to reliance on prayer examples.

[The Valkyrie]

ONE is too many.

I'm still waiting for specifics....

How many people were hurt/killed by prayer? That you know of? That you have verifiable proof of?

A small selection

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...monia.html

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/...ith-prayer

[Esquilax]

Might?

What, you want me to make unqualified assertions of something I can't possibly know for sure? Nah, I'd prefer to be intellectually honest.

You're the one who started the "argument from ignorance". I'm just waiting for answers.

"No, you," isn't an argument, Ronny.

As for evidence... Well, there you go. I hope your deliberate obtuseness was worth it, Ronny.

Was that life worth it, Ron? Is that an acceptable sacrifice for allowing your christian privilege to run unchecked?

[JesusHChrist]

And another example. 10 more children of faith healers dead. This is in addition to at least two recent high profile cases in Oregon.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Fallen-fo...=video&c=y

When proper medical care is required, prayer fails miserably.

[Ryantology]

As I recall neon Nazis were allowed to march in Skokie IL a mostly Jewish community. Free speech extends to even the most vile. Zoning restrictions can set physical limitations but cannot regulate content. People used to say, "It's a free country." You don't hear that very often any more.

Not getting to defile public property with symbols of the torture device you worship is not, legally-speaking, a violation of your freedom.

What I find telling is that it was the ACLU that supported the Nazis but now files suit against Christians.

I find it just as telling, if not for the same reasons you do.

[Godlesspanther]

As I recall neon Nazis were allowed to march in Skokie IL a mostly Jewish community. Free speech extends to even the most vile. Zoning restrictions can set physical limitations but cannot regulate content. People used to say, "It's a free country." You don't hear that very often any more.

What I find telling is that it was the ACLU that supported the Nazis but now files suit against Christians.

What is telling is your ignorance concerning the ACLU. They are a nonpartisan organization that has defended the rights of many, many very different groups and individuals including xtians. They defended Rush fucking Limbaugh's right to free speech and then that same motherfucker goes on to continue to villainize and lie about them.

[ronedee]

I'm still waiting for specifics....

How many people were hurt/killed by prayer? That you know of? That you have verifiable proof of?

A small selection

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...monia.html

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/...ith-prayer

Small indeed.

And where in scripture, or any religious doctrine it says that EVERY Christian is to refuse medical treatment?

Where does Jesus say to refuse medical treatment?

[Neo-Scholastic]

So what? You still support censorship.