Gay marriage

[pineapplebunnybounce]

Here's the thing though, if your reason for voting against gay marriage is because government shouldn't be involved in marriage, that's a pretty lame excuse unless at the same time you are fighting for hetero marriage to be abolished as well. Then I would say you are sincere. While marriage is the way it is, you have to vote for gay marriage to be legal or you're just encouraging inequality. Why don't you draft a bill up that says all marriage should be illegal? Because right now the issue isn't that government isn't involved in gay marriage, is that they say it's illegal. Only hetero marriages are legal. So that's not the same as saying hands off all marriages.

[Bad Writer]

The upside to abolishing all types of marriage would be that those people who enjoy poly amorous relationships would no longer be persecuted as well.

EDIT: Okay, persecution will still happen from religious nuts, but they wouldn't be able to justify it with law.

[EgoRaptor]

The upside to abolishing all types of marriage would be that those people who enjoy poly amorous relationships would no longer be persecuted as well.

But what about the people who do want to pledge themselves to one person? And no one has to get married, & there is also open marriage. Wouldn't it just be easier to legalize bigamy too?

[Bad Writer]

No, because then people would abuse the legal system by espousing themselves to numberless individuals, thereby reaping the benefits under a singular institution.

EDIT: That I think, is a major reason why it was outlawed to begin with. It obviously wasn't based on the bible since the holiest men within it were polygamists.

[Chas]

Because, quite simply, the only 'side' whose opinions matter is the side of the people wanting to marry one another. Should you have to ask for the approval of some large group of people whose existences are in no way impacted by your decision to marry your spouse? Should you have to compromise with strangers who wish you couldn't marry the person you want to marry and allow them to dictate that you can't call that a 'marriage'?

No?

Then, why would you ask that of anyone else?

I am not interested in compromising with anybody who doesn't support marriage equality, especially not now, because your side is not going to win.

I rest my case.

Here you go. You don't have to perform gay marriages in your church. Other churches may choose to or not.

There's your compromise. Happy now?

[Lek]

So what you mean is, that as far as the Government is concerned, no one is married. They can just enter into a Civil Union with whoever they want. Marriage is another matter entirely.

Correct? Cause that sounds fine to me.

I agree.

[là bạn điên]

I'm going to break ranks here and state that there IS a chance that Christians will be forced to marry Gay people in churches. I don't know about the USA but the UK submits to the European court of Human rights which acts 'legislating' from the bench. It is a distinct possibility that once Gay marriage becomes The norm throughout Europe that a group will bring a case to the ECHR demanding an end to discrimination by churches against gay people and the case will be upheld which will lead to certain unwanted circumstances. I think churches SHOULD be able to refuse gay marriage BUT in the UK Anglican(episcopalian) churches should have to allow gay marriage even if certain Ministers may refuse to conduct them.

[Bad Writer]

Is there not a separation of church and state there?

EDIT: Asking because I legitimately don't know British law.

[là bạn điên]

Is there not a separation of church and state there?

No.

[Bad Writer]

I just lol'ed. Well, I don't feel bad for those churches over there then.