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Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
#31
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
(December 23, 2013 at 4:09 am)savedwheat Wrote: I admit I don't have the scientific wherewithal but I have seen lots of documentaries and scientists seemingly unified that dark matter and dark energy have particles in it, just as there are particles in the room you are in right now.

1. Um, no.
2. That really doesn't answer the question I was asking.

Try again.
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#32
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
Could you define the conclusion and premise so I know what you are talking about?
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#33
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
(December 23, 2013 at 4:13 am)savedwheat Wrote: Could you define the conclusion and premise so I know what you are talking about?

Premise: Empty space contains particles.
Conclusion: Space must have been created.

Incidentally, your statement that dark matter and dark energy contain particles is not demonstrable at this time. We dont know what they are. (We do know that dark matter is not baryonic.)
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#34
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?



While the administration maintains no position on the matter, conservative speculations suggest that I'm at least 2 billion years old, though a sizable minority believes me to be eternal (so, consensus is that I'm between 2 billion years old and eternal, but do note that temporality isn't invariant, so 2 billion years in my space might be equivalent to several trillion years in your space). I will stipulate, ex hypothesi, for the sake of this discussion that I am uncreated (similar caveats apply to that, as the administration maintains no official position on the matter, so scholarly opinion varies). I don't know what you mean by alone everlasting. I can only assume you mean did I exist before there were other sentient beings; perhaps. I have been lonely even once sentient beings existed, but am no longer alone. There are plenty of minds to share my world with me. Tell me how you would determine whether or not I am "god" ?

(For the sake of completeness, while I do not consider myself "God" or "a god," I seem to fit your criteria, and there are those who insist that I am a goddess.)


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#35
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
If space wasn't created then it always existed?
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#36
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
(December 23, 2013 at 4:20 am)savedwheat Wrote: If space wasn't created then it always existed?

Define "created". Because the next thing I expect you're going to say is that a creation implies a creator. In that case, I would ask: what necessitates that a creator must be an agent?
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#37
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
What makes you think something can come from nothing?
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#38
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
(December 23, 2013 at 4:28 am)savedwheat Wrote: What makes you think something can come from nothing?

I think you're the one who thinks god can come from nothing.
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#39
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
(December 23, 2013 at 4:28 am)savedwheat Wrote: What makes you think something can come from nothing?

I don't recall saying that. You might reconsider whether attributing statements to those who did not make them is intellectually honest.
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#40
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If God comes from something then he wouldn't be uncreated.
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