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Another Theist
#51
RE: Another Theist
(November 20, 2009 at 5:29 pm)Pope Alfred Wrote:
(November 20, 2009 at 1:35 pm)A Theist Wrote: There was nothing judgemental about the question. You can either answer it, or you can't.

Nothing judgemental, my arse! The question is meaningless and nonsensical - and your elucidation made that worse - but it was clearly fishing for a negative judgement.
I repeat: leave sexuality alone where it doesn't concern you. Don't judge what you don't need to judge. Live and let live.

Again, there was nothing judgemental about the question. I'm challenging the validity to the argument that same gender sex is a natural biological function. If you're going to be so bold as to challenge others then you're going to have learn to take it when you're challenged.
(November 20, 2009 at 6:46 pm)Saerules Wrote:
(November 20, 2009 at 6:33 pm)A Theist Wrote:
(November 20, 2009 at 1:45 pm)Saerules Wrote:
A Theist Wrote:I asked the question, how is homosexuality biologically sound?

Here you go Smile--> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and...rientation as well as --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment...rientation

Development in this area of research is rapidly developing, so you can expect some conclusive proof in the years soon to come Smile
To your credit you did not respond with an emotional argument or attempt to enter into a debate armed with inconclusive evidence. I read the links that you provided. The research is still ongoing. Nothing conclusve.

Indeed... just so far as you are aware of the evidence and data that the scientific community has found in attempt to explain why this phenomenon occurs Smile
Understood, but it's not evidence until the data is found to be conclusive.
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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#52
RE: Another Theist
None of which changes the fact that you are butting into someone else's business because of your big book of fairy tales.

Since the whole bible is bullshit to begin with, why should that particular assertion merit any attention, either?
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#53
RE: Another Theist
(November 20, 2009 at 10:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote: None of which changes the fact that you are butting into someone else's business because of your big book of fairy tales.

Since the whole bible is bullshit to begin with, why should that particular assertion merit any attention, either?
Unbelievable. Why the tirade? I'm not arguing from a moral or Biblical position. I'm challenging the validity to the argument that same gender sex is a natural biological function. Either answer the question or admit that you can't.
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Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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#54
RE: Another Theist
(November 20, 2009 at 7:06 pm)A Theist Wrote: Understood, but it's not evidence until the data is found to be conclusive.
Erm...no actually. Evidence is any observation that supports a specific idea / theory / hypothesis. One piece of evidence in favour of one idea is still a piece of evidence, no matter how you look at it. The relationship is: the more evidence, the more conclusive a theory can be.
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#55
RE: Another Theist
(November 20, 2009 at 11:49 pm)A Theist Wrote:
(November 20, 2009 at 10:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote: None of which changes the fact that you are butting into someone else's business because of your big book of fairy tales.

Since the whole bible is bullshit to begin with, why should that particular assertion merit any attention, either?
Unbelievable. Why the tirade? I'm not arguing from a moral or Biblical position. I'm challenging the validity to the argument that same gender sex is a natural biological function. Either answer the question or admit that you can't.

I agree with you at least in the sense that it isn't a very useful biological function, but it is a naturally occurring one, a genetic trait that developed (Accidentally or not) amongst an ancient species that is the ancestor of wide range of different species of animals that all display homosexual traits. It's not human specific, may be very ancient from pre male-female sexual reproduction, or a useless mutation that prevailed amongst a successful branch on the evolutionary tree.
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#56
RE: Another Theist
(November 20, 2009 at 11:49 pm)A Theist Wrote: Either answer the question or admit that you can't.
If I asked "Are Jews good citizens?" then most people - including you, I hope - would be disturbed or worse. That's how your question seems to an unprejudiced person. It's like the old standard "When did you stop beating your wife?"
As it happens, I am not gay, but I do resent any form of prejudice against them. You may well have annoyed or upset gays on this forum.
I will not answer this nonsense.
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#57
RE: Another Theist
(November 21, 2009 at 12:08 am)Tiberius Wrote:
(November 20, 2009 at 7:06 pm)A Theist Wrote: Understood, but it's not evidence until the data is found to be conclusive.
Erm...no actually. Evidence is any observation that supports a specific idea / theory / hypothesis. One piece of evidence in favour of one idea is still a piece of evidence, no matter how you look at it.
Quote: The relationship is: the more evidence, the more conclusive a theory can be.
Understood.
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Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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#58
RE: Another Theist
(November 18, 2009 at 7:09 pm)A Theist Wrote:
(November 18, 2009 at 6:45 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote:
(November 18, 2009 at 6:44 pm)A Theist Wrote: I used to be a frequent poster on Atheist Nation.

OMG I used to go on there!! ;-; Then it merged with TAF...
What was your username? 8D
How long ago? My user name was the same that I'm using here.
I got caught up in something else and didn't post anything for a few months.
I tried to return and the site is in maintanence mode.
Have any of the AN members come to this site?
You have to remember "Stupid Ugly Head ", " Poop Shoot", or "Landon".
I remember the discussions could get pretty wild, especially when " Jesus Freakman12" came into them.
I always had a good time on that site.

Stupid Ugly Head goes on TAF, so does Poopshoot (he's a mod now), and I think Landon left??

But yeh. They merged a few months ago I think...
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#59
RE: Another Theist
(November 21, 2009 at 12:54 am)theVOID Wrote:
(November 20, 2009 at 11:49 pm)A Theist Wrote:
(November 20, 2009 at 10:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote: None of which changes the fact that you are butting into someone else's business because of your big book of fairy tales.

Since the whole bible is bullshit to begin with, why should that particular assertion merit any attention, either?
Unbelievable. Why the tirade? I'm not arguing from a moral or Biblical position. I'm challenging the validity to the argument that same gender sex is a natural biological function. Either answer the question or admit that you can't.

I agree with you at least in the sense that it isn't a very useful biological function, but it is a naturally occurring one, a genetic trait that developed (Accidentally or not) amongst an ancient species that is the ancestor of wide range of different species of animals that all display homosexual traits. It's not human specific, may be very ancient from pre male-female sexual reproduction, or a useless mutation that prevailed amongst a successful branch on the evolutionary tree.
I know the research is ongoing to find whether the behavior can be associated to the influence of surrounding enviornments or if there's a biological connection. So far the findings are inconclusive. I agree that it's been observed in nature among various species. I wonder if the same behavior can't simply be the result that some are denied the opportunity to mating due to rank in the pack. Mating rights within the pack do seem reserved for the alpha status.
(November 21, 2009 at 3:39 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote:
(November 18, 2009 at 7:09 pm)A Theist Wrote:
(November 18, 2009 at 6:45 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote:
(November 18, 2009 at 6:44 pm)A Theist Wrote: I used to be a frequent poster on Atheist Nation.

OMG I used to go on there!! ;-; Then it merged with TAF...
What was your username? 8D
How long ago? My user name was the same that I'm using here.
I got caught up in something else and didn't post anything for a few months.
I tried to return and the site is in maintanence mode.
Have any of the AN members come to this site?
You have to remember "Stupid Ugly Head ", " Poop Shoot", or "Landon".
I remember the discussions could get pretty wild, especially when " Jesus Freakman12" came into them.
I always had a good time on that site.

Stupid Ugly Head goes on TAF, so does Poopshoot (he's a mod now), and I think Landon left??

But yeh. They merged a few months ago I think...
Poopshoot's a moderator? That means he'll have to enforce and abide by guidelines. I don't see him lasting as a Moderator, lol! Stupid Ugly Head used to be a mod on AN. Wonder what happened to Landon? Do you post on TAF?
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Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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#60
RE: Another Theist
(November 21, 2009 at 3:46 pm)A Theist Wrote:
(November 21, 2009 at 12:54 am)theVOID Wrote:
(November 20, 2009 at 11:49 pm)A Theist Wrote:
(November 20, 2009 at 10:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote: None of which changes the fact that you are butting into someone else's business because of your big book of fairy tales.

Since the whole bible is bullshit to begin with, why should that particular assertion merit any attention, either?
Unbelievable. Why the tirade? I'm not arguing from a moral or Biblical position. I'm challenging the validity to the argument that same gender sex is a natural biological function. Either answer the question or admit that you can't.

I agree with you at least in the sense that it isn't a very useful biological function, but it is a naturally occurring one, a genetic trait that developed (Accidentally or not) amongst an ancient species that is the ancestor of wide range of different species of animals that all display homosexual traits. It's not human specific, may be very ancient from pre male-female sexual reproduction, or a useless mutation that prevailed amongst a successful branch on the evolutionary tree.
I know the research is ongoing to find whether the behavior can be associated to the influence of surrounding enviornments or if there's a biological connection. So far the findings are inconclusive. I agree that it's been observed in nature among various species. I wonder if the same behavior can't simply be the result that some are denied the opportunity to mating due to rank in the pack. Mating rights within the pack do seem reserved for the alpha status.
(November 21, 2009 at 3:39 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote:
(November 18, 2009 at 7:09 pm)A Theist Wrote:
(November 18, 2009 at 6:45 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote:
(November 18, 2009 at 6:44 pm)A Theist Wrote: I used to be a frequent poster on Atheist Nation.

OMG I used to go on there!! ;-; Then it merged with TAF...
What was your username? 8D
How long ago? My user name was the same that I'm using here.
I got caught up in something else and didn't post anything for a few months.
I tried to return and the site is in maintanence mode.
Have any of the AN members come to this site?
You have to remember "Stupid Ugly Head ", " Poop Shoot", or "Landon".
I remember the discussions could get pretty wild, especially when " Jesus Freakman12" came into them.
I always had a good time on that site.

Stupid Ugly Head goes on TAF, so does Poopshoot (he's a mod now), and I think Landon left??

But yeh. They merged a few months ago I think...
Poopshoot's a moderator? That means he'll have to enforce and abide by guidelines. I don't see him lasting as a Moderator, lol! Stupid Ugly Head used to be a mod on AN. Wonder what happened to Landon? Do you post on TAF?

Yes, I do post of there. I dunno what happened to this Landon fellow.
And poopshoot has been an alright mod. :3 I don't see him becomming demodded...
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