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RE: Door to door religion
January 27, 2014 at 2:00 pm
The issue of blood transfusions has become a real problem for them for the reason you state; transfusions have become much safer and a very reliable way to save lives. Due to this and other issues (ie, the risk to hemophiliacs) they have changed their stance considerably over time. Read this and you'll see that although they insist that they do not accept blood transfusions, they've gutted the policy with so many exceptions and changes that you wonder how long it will be before they simply admit that they got it wrong.
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RE: Door to door religion
January 27, 2014 at 2:27 pm
Personally I was polite to them at first, however they seemed to take this as some sort of encouragement and started turning up regularly.
Now I ignore them, wait for them to drop the magazine through the letterbox and dump it in the recycling.
Apart from JWs we also get Mormons and Baptists, they get the same treatment.
A mate of mine demolished them on interpretation of the bible, whilst my future father in law decided to pretend to be a naturist and opened the door starkers, apparently they legged it...
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RE: Door to door religion
January 27, 2014 at 5:37 pm
(January 27, 2014 at 1:43 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: The look on the girls face was priceless, she obviously had never thought about it in those terms before. At least now she knows beyond a shadow of a doubt where she stands in terms of importance to her father.  Tough lesson to learn at 12 years old.
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RE: Door to door religion
January 27, 2014 at 5:38 pm
(January 27, 2014 at 5:37 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: (January 27, 2014 at 1:43 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: The look on the girls face was priceless, she obviously had never thought about it in those terms before. At least now she knows beyond a shadow of a doubt where she stands in terms of importance to her father. Tough lesson to learn at 12 years old.
That's one of the lessons that the bible teaches, though. Yahweh comes before all.
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RE: Door to door religion
January 27, 2014 at 5:41 pm
(January 27, 2014 at 2:00 pm)Tonus Wrote: The issue of blood transfusions has become a real problem for them for the reason you state; transfusions have become much safer and a very reliable way to save lives. Due to this and other issues (ie, the risk to hemophiliacs) they have changed their stance considerably over time. Read this and you'll see that although they insist that they do not accept blood transfusions, they've gutted the policy with so many exceptions and changes that you wonder how long it will be before they simply admit that they got it wrong.
Jehovah's Witnesses [and Wrote:Blood Transfusions]What is generally unknown is that over its history the Watchtower Society has made a virtual 360 degree turn on their acceptance of blood products.
So they made a 180 degree turn and accepted blood transfusions at some point in time, only to make another 180 back to not accepting them???
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RE: Door to door religion
January 27, 2014 at 6:01 pm
For educational purposes: 360 degrees is a full circle. 180 degrees is half a circle. Thank you.
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RE: Door to door religion
January 27, 2014 at 8:37 pm
(January 27, 2014 at 6:01 pm)Chad32 Wrote: For educational purposes: 360 degrees is a full circle. 180 degrees is half a circle. Thank you.
But which did they do? A 180 implying that the JW's original position on transfusions was "yes, do them!" and now it is "No transfusions for you!" or a 360 which implies that they disallowed transfusions, went through a period of time where they allowed them, and then went back to disallowing them?
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RE: Door to door religion
January 27, 2014 at 8:43 pm
They don't come around where I live. But there are a lot who stand around in the cold (winter now) preaching a variety religions. I feel sorry for them, but I don't know what to do. Do I tell them to go home and stay warm? Of course they won't. But I've come to think that Toronto is quite atheistic because these people are constantly ignored. And it's so cold out, and some of them are really old people, can't be good for their health.
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RE: Door to door religion
January 27, 2014 at 10:20 pm
(January 27, 2014 at 10:08 am)No_God Wrote: Homophobia.... I usually just express my disappointment.
Pro-life, anti-woman, pro-birth people make me turn into the hulk.
Yes I am very similar.Though again I look silly when I get angry so I don't bother.
The whole blood transfusion thing is silly in my opinion. I am fine with adults deciding not to have one but children should get them if it is life and death not matter the religion. They haven't had a chance to make up there own mind yet.
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Re: RE: Door to door religion
January 28, 2014 at 1:15 am
(January 27, 2014 at 10:08 am)No_God Wrote: Homophobia.... I usually just express my disappointment.
Pro-life, anti-woman, pro-birth people make me turn into the hulk.
I'm the exact opposite. I will not tolerate anti-gay sentiment.
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