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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 1:58 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 1:56 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: (February 28, 2014 at 1:53 pm)Faith No More Wrote: JesusLover, I think if you take away one thing from this exchange it should be this: Your parents tell you god exists but not to look into yourself, but the heathen atheists aren't telling what you should think. We've been advocating you to look for yourself.
Ask yourself why the atheists are the ones advocating honest inquiry.
But you guys just think me and my family are idiots.
There's a different between being an idiot and being mistaken. Everyone is mistaken from time to time; the difference is that the idiot gets upset when corrected. So, you tell me, where would that put you?
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 1:59 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 1:58 pm)Alex K Wrote: I'll just repeat myself. You should be careful with giving out (indirectly) private information to strangers on the internet. If I am correct, I now know your parent's names, what they look like, etc. Not so cool
(February 28, 2014 at 1:49 pm)Alex K Wrote: I would delete that comment, your hometown and name of your father are traceable via this list using google
What am I supposed to do? :S OMG I'm really worried now...
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 1:59 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 1:58 pm)Alex K Wrote: I'll just repeat myself. You should be careful with giving out (indirectly) private information to strangers on the internet. If I am correct, I now know your parent's names, what they look like, etc. Not so cool
(February 28, 2014 at 1:49 pm)Alex K Wrote: I would delete that comment, your hometown and name of your father are traceable via this list using google
Too late. I already looked it up. The kid is ruining my impression of Canadians really fast. 
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 2:00 pm
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(February 28, 2014 at 1:59 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: (February 28, 2014 at 1:58 pm)Alex K Wrote: I'll just repeat myself. You should be careful with giving out (indirectly) private information to strangers on the internet. If I am correct, I now know your parent's names, what they look like, etc. Not so cool
What am I supposed to do? :S OMG I'm really worried now...
I'm sure you're fine with the atheism forum crowd, just in the future don't post stuff from your dad's church website verbatim on forums 
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Re: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 2:00 pm
@ JesusLover1
I don't pretend to know your situation at all, but it seriously strikes me from what you've posted here that your parents are fostering and encouraging your OCD rather than helping to treat it. Regardless of what you believe about the afterlife, if your child suffers from OCD, you don't plant seeds of fear like this.
I have changed my opinion about you several times the more you have posted. I don't think you're stupid. I actually think you are probably very smart, and that is why your parents don't want you to read the Bible. It sounds very much like your parents fear you asking questions of them, so they have created an environment where you never do.
Your parents are not infallible. They may have your best interests in mind, but sometimes they are wrong. I would suggest you request that they allow you to talk to a mental health professional who is properly licensed (read: not a church counselor) and has experience treating OCD. You could greatly improve your functionality and quality of life.
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 2:01 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 1:30 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: When I mention other Gods, he says "what other Gods?". I've mentioned Islam before and he tells me they just worship Mohammed, a dead man.
Christians ACTUALLY worship Jesus, a dead man. Muslims worship Allah, the God of Abraham.
(February 28, 2014 at 8:46 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: My parents say reading the Bible in my current mental state is one of the WORST things I can do right now.
If you read it in order, cover-to-cover, without being told what to think about it at every step, it doesn't make any sense. That is why they don't want you to read it on your own.
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 2:01 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 2:00 pm)Alex K Wrote: (February 28, 2014 at 1:59 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: What am I supposed to do? :S OMG I'm really worried now...
I'm sure you're fine with the atheism forum crowd, just in the future don't post stuff from your dad's church website verbatim on forums
Okay thank you
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 2:02 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 1:56 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: But you guys just think me and my family are idiots.
Did you seriously think you were the first messenger of Christ to come to this forum with the sales pitches you've used?
We have Christians who have been here for years in a effort to convert just one atheist which is as ceaseless as it is fruitless. What makes you think you'll succeed when they have a 100% failure rate?
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 2:02 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 1:36 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: (February 28, 2014 at 1:33 pm)ThePinsir Wrote: I'm curious. What's wrong with your mental state? Why would reading your holy book be bad?
They say I'll misunderstand it.
I'd say they're more worried you WILL understand it.
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RE: One final attempt to try and get through to you guys
February 28, 2014 at 2:02 pm
(February 28, 2014 at 1:56 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: But you guys just think me and my family are idiots.
Somewhat, yes, but if one is honest, most of us are idiots from time to time. It's clinging to idiocy willingly that irks me the most.
(February 28, 2014 at 1:59 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: What am I supposed to do? :S OMG I'm really worried now...
Don't worry, you fixed your post on your own just fine.
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