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New to the truth
#11
RE: New to the truth
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#12
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Welcome to (in)Sanity Central.

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#13
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I can't believe that people actually think that the Xtian God is supposed to hate them and this is why they go to hell.

But loads of you do!

Welcome CC. May you grow in knowledge Wink
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#14
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(March 13, 2014 at 10:49 am)truthBtold Wrote:
(March 13, 2014 at 10:47 am)whateverist Wrote: Welcome. You are in the majority here. Try not to be an asshole about it .. not that you would. You obviously have a higher moral standard than god almighty. Wink

My left toe has more morals than god

Well sure but then your left toe has the advantage of actually existing.
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Welcome
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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(March 13, 2014 at 10:02 am)CleverCalvert Wrote: Hi everyone. I'm a newbie to this forum also I just recently within the last year let go of theism. I'm 27 and since I was around 21 I have felt strong doubts about "GOD" but I also had strong fears like what if I'm wrong I don't want an eternity of torture. It took a friend to bring me to the light "the true light" and how simple it was to convince me to let go of "hell" the only thing keeping me in the dark. He asked me a fairly simple question. He said "if there were someone you truly viewed as an enemy?" and yes a few people came to mind. He then said "take the one person you dislike the most if you had the chance would you send them to an imaginary burning Island full of serial killers and where you die every night and wake up alive every morning?" sounded like a horrible place to me and not somewhere I would wish anyone to be" He then said "well then if you think about it you are a better person then God because unless you devote your self completely to him he would send you there in a hurry. And while that didn't really disprove the existence of hell to me it did take away the fear because even if and that's a black hole sized even if but if I am wrong I'll go to hell knowing I am a better being then my judge. And if I'm better then him then he cannot be "the lord" oh and the fact that the center of the earth is molten iron pretty much makes every other theism claim almost laughable.

If you're like me, and it sounds like we've had similar journeys from faith to reason, you'll find that the idea of hell gradually becomes less and less threatening, eventually realizing that it was such an absurdly illogical concept to begin with. You might even begin to laugh at the thought that people still take it seriously.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#17
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Welcome

Nice intro, I like when people share what drew them away from religion/faith, and led them on a different path. I look forward to reading more of your posts. Smile
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Hello, Cal! Welcome!
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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(March 13, 2014 at 5:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I can't believe that people actually think that the Xtian God is supposed to hate them and this is why they go to hell.

But loads of you do!

Welcome CC. May you grow in knowledge Wink

Well I never felt like that god or any of them would hate there believers it seems though in the stories they do get pretty butt hurt if you don't pay them enough attention.
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#20
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Welcome to the forums! Kudos to your friend! I also had a friend that gave me a few nudges in the right direction back in my early twenties. It was a very heartfelt moment when I let him know the role he had in my de-conversion.

(March 13, 2014 at 5:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I can't believe that people actually think that the Xtian God is supposed to hate them and this is why they go to hell.

But loads of you do!

Welcome CC. May you grow in knowledge Wink

Yup. Looks like Xtianity is doing as crap a job as ever in comforting the masses. I'm surprised the fear of hell doesn't evoke a similar response in most Christians that believe in this. Or...perhaps they do think this but quietly chant to themselves, "But god loves me. God loves me. He HAS to love me," because, y'know, believing very hard in one thing is enough to make it true, right?
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