Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant

[Bucky Ball]

Well, goes to show that you will never fail to post more bullshit and an extremely large quantity at that. Not saying all of the content is bullshit because, I don't know for certain, but your narrow minded view that these conclusions you've come to and these books you recommend are without error and those who disagree are uneducated and retarted, is infantile and a copout. This behavior is common in children. How old are you?

I never said I know anything about Adam or the Fall. I know what the Bible has to say about it and I see the evidence of a fallen humanity throughout History and everywhere around me.

If I read a book like this:
http://www.christianbook.com/now-thats-a...ew=details
Which declares there to be over 300 specific prophecies in the Old Testament that are fulfilled in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ in the New Testament.

How do you know that is false?

IF I read books that you recommend that don't jive with other accounts, Who's right and who's wrong? One option is I could adopt your arrogant style, taking it upon myself to be the absolute authority that decides which ones are authentic facts, and call everyone retarted that doesn't agree with me.

Because I have studied Hebrew culture. I KNOW that the role of a prophet was not to predict anything, so your little game is meaningless in the context of Hebrew culture.
In fact sooth-saying was an abomination. Your "omen" reading was forbidden.

Deuteronomy 18 : 10
"Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft"

How does it feel to be someone who practices abomination ?

Maybe THIS will help you.
http://www.outreachjudaism.org/articles/...irgin.html

There is no help for you. You never even heard of Martin Buber, have you ?

I also know there are just as many "failed" predictions.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Failed_biblical_prophecies

[Phatt Matt s]

I don't practice divination, sorcery, or interpretation of omens. Such things have always been considered Satanic.

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And then I read a book like this:
http://www.christianbook.com/now-thats-a...ew=details
Which declares there to be over 300 specific prophecies in the Old Testament that are fulfilled in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ in the New Testament.

How do you know that is false?

You do realize how easy it is to create a new story based on past prophecy, right? One just has to read the past prophecy and build a new story around it. There is nothing logical in assuming that Jesus actually fulfilled a prophecy. Rather, man created a character around the already existing prophecy, which is quite obvious in the inconsistency of the first four gospels of the new testament.

Yes I know that to be a possibility. That is one reason I'm skeptic. I have however seen the power of prayer and faith in my life. THat doesn't mean I know What is fact or fiction in theology. To this day I struggle with a disgust for Religion.

I just don't say I can judge people to be retarted or their views to be false just because they disgust me.

[Bucky Ball]

I don't practice divination, sorcery, or interpretation of omens. Such things have always been considered Satanic.

You DO "interpret omens".

"omen"
o·men
[oh-muhn]
noun
1.
anything perceived or happening that is believed to portend a good or evil event or circumstance in the future; portent.
2.
a prognostic.
3.
prophetic significance; presage: a bird of ill omen.

[Silver]

I don't practice divination, sorcery, or interpretation of omens. Such things have always been considered Satanic.

[Phatt Matt s]

What omen did I interpret?

[Silver]

What omen did I interpret?

If you consider, having weighed in your mind, something to be Satanic, then you have "interpreted omens".

[Phatt Matt s]

I said they are considered Satanic. Do I know them to be Satanic? No. Does Scripture know divination and sorcery to be Satanic? Yes

As far as interpretation of Omens. That's relative. Men of God told of what would happen in the future, interpreted visions, difficult scriptures, and dreams in the OT

[Bucky Ball]

What omen did I interpret?

If you consider, having weighed in your mind, something to be Satanic, then you have "interpreted omens".

Even YOU are not that stupid.
By definition, ALL "future predictions" ... by YOUR definition, ie "PROPHESY" is omen reading. What ? You can't read the definition of "omen" ?

If you disagree, tell us EXACTLY the difference.

[Silver]

If you disagree, tell us EXACTLY the difference.

His response will be something along the lines of biblical prophecy being divinely inspired. Therefore, holy.

[Bucky Ball]

Yes I know that to be a possibility. That is one reason I'm skeptic. I have however seen the power of prayer and faith in my life. THat doesn't mean I know What is fact or fiction in theology. To this day I struggle with a disgust for Religion.

I just don't say I can judge people to be retarted or their views to be false just because they disgust me.

I never said your views were false because "you disgust me".
Liar.
I said your bullshit about Mary's virginity was all based on ignorance.
I stand by that. You have not refuted that.