The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
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| The question is meaningless | 17 | 43.59% | |
| The question is meaningful, and No | 12 | 30.77% | |
| The question is meaningful, and Yes | 10 | 25.64% | |
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The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
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April 11, 2014 at 6:35 am
(April 11, 2014 at 6:26 am)alpha male Wrote:(April 10, 2014 at 5:44 pm)pocaracas Wrote: That you know of, is there any conscious agent whose consciousness doesn't rely on an inanimate object... or rather, on many such objects?Let's see...we've been comparing god and a singularity...whadda you think? Keyword "know"...  RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 11, 2014 at 7:15 am
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)  RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 11, 2014 at 7:24 am
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April 11, 2014 at 8:10 am
(April 11, 2014 at 7:24 am)alpha male Wrote:"they have"?(April 11, 2014 at 6:35 am)pocaracas Wrote: Keyword "know"...Are you suggesting that one can't provide logical reasoning for the existence of a thing, unless they've already proven its existence? I was giving you an opportunity to back away from it. RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 11, 2014 at 9:07 am
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April 11, 2014 at 10:02 am
I agree with what Tracey said on The Atheist Experience.
There isn't a "nothing" to investigate, everything we see was something coming from something (since our cosmos is not empty but full of particles and other activity on the quantum level).
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.
RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 11, 2014 at 10:17 am
(April 11, 2014 at 9:07 am)alpha male Wrote:(April 11, 2014 at 8:10 am)pocaracas Wrote: "they have"?"Just playing games now because your point was ridiculous?" No... your point is ridiculous... Are you trying to equate "logical reasoning for the existence of" "an inanimate object" with "logical reasoning for the existence of a " "conscious agent"? Even when there are experiments which demonstrate the existence of said "inanimate object", while no experiment yet devised can yield that particular "conscious agent" that you wish to demonstrate....?  RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 11, 2014 at 10:40 am
(April 10, 2014 at 2:06 pm)alpha male Wrote:Ah, that's actually good.(April 10, 2014 at 11:27 am)LostLocke Wrote: If god existed eternally prior to creating the universe, then I would expect him to continue to exist eternally without creating a universe.No, my response is that it's reasonable to have the expectation of continuity regarding an inanimate object, but not reasonable regarding a conscious agent. Now, what if I were to tell you that the singularity didn't exist eternally. In fact, it didn't exist for any length of time. RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 11, 2014 at 11:06 am
(April 11, 2014 at 10:17 am)pocaracas Wrote:"yet devised"?(April 11, 2014 at 9:07 am)alpha male Wrote: "Just playing games now because your point was ridiculous?" RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 11, 2014 at 11:11 am
(April 11, 2014 at 11:06 am)alpha male Wrote:(April 11, 2014 at 10:17 am)pocaracas Wrote: No... your point is ridiculous..."yet devised"? I make no claims about the future. |
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