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New age religion
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 (April 8, 2014 at 11:04 am)whateverist Wrote: As long as you do not blaspheme against the dragons you may continue. You mean those make-believe flying, fire-breathing, small-brained, ugly-as-sin reptiles?
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter   (April 8, 2014 at 8:58 am)cromwell Wrote: I am as you say, talking more about america, it's worrying that the leading country of the world seems to not be able to shake old religion, and then we constantly hear over here about all these other batshit crazy new religions that are taking a hold of people in mass numbers over there. Mainly through celebrities endorsing them I would suppose.I think we're a few decades behind in the process, is all. We seem to be at the point where most people identify as being religious, but a lot of them are apathetic in practice. The number who actually let go of religion is increasing slowly but steadily (14% or 16% was the last I recall reading). Religion still has a political power base and some money, so it will hang on for a while, but disinterest is a very powerful force over the long term.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould  RE: New age religion
April 8, 2014 at 12:22 pm
(This post was last modified: April 8, 2014 at 12:27 pm by Confused Ape.)
(April 8, 2014 at 12:07 pm)Napoléon Wrote: What are you arguing about? Where did I say these people weren't religious? I misunderstood what you meant by - (April 8, 2014 at 10:23 am)Napoléon Wrote: Is it really a surprise that Vatican observatory staff describe themselves as religious, when they work at the fucking Vatican? I thought you were suggesting they might only be claiming to be religious so they could work there.  (April 8, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Tonus Wrote: I think we're a few decades behind in the process, is all. We seem to be at the point where most people identify as being religious, but a lot of them are apathetic in practice. The number who actually let go of religion is increasing slowly but steadily (14% or 16% was the last I recall reading). Religion still has a political power base and some money, so it will hang on for a while, but disinterest is a very powerful force over the long term. Many people who have turned away from 'Old Age' religion are turning to New Age beliefs instead, though.  Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?RE: New age religion
April 8, 2014 at 1:18 pm
(This post was last modified: April 8, 2014 at 1:22 pm by Napoléon.)
(April 8, 2014 at 12:22 pm)Confused Ape Wrote: I thought you were suggesting they might only be claiming to be religious so they could work there. Ah, no, I have no doubt the people working there are genuinely religious. I can however see why you interpreted it that way so perhaps the fault was my own for wording it poorly. I did say though that there would be exceptions. I could just as easily find a bunch of scientists from a fairly secular part of the world and say "look at these guys they're scientists and they're not religious". My overall point is that secular communities, as a trend, have pretty good education and with that better education it logically follows that more people question the validity of religion.  (April 8, 2014 at 8:20 am)cromwell Wrote: So just as we think we could make some progress on getting rid of the old religions, all this new age bullshit turns up. Things like you have a third eye, we ourselves are gods from atlantis before it sunk, scientology and all that crap. Maybe the human race is just inclined to believe in and be apart of something bigger than reality. I honestly don't think we will ever get rid of this trait. atheist religion will replace it someday. Unless you can prove "there is nothing" that is. Then maybe it will be more real. (April 8, 2014 at 3:58 pm)archangle Wrote: atheist religion will replace it someday. Unless you can prove "there is nothing" that is. Then maybe it will be more real. What is atheist religion? Where are the snake and mushroom smilies? RE: New age religion
April 8, 2014 at 4:22 pm
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(April 8, 2014 at 4:06 pm)Confused Ape Wrote:(April 8, 2014 at 3:58 pm)archangle Wrote: atheist religion will replace it someday. Unless you can prove "there is nothing" that is. Then maybe it will be more real. It will probably look something like this. a religion that believes the multiverse theory is right, one that believes we are just a single universe, a flexiverse cult, and many other little denominations lol. Then they will war with each other over who is right lol. (April 8, 2014 at 4:22 pm)cromwell Wrote:(April 8, 2014 at 4:06 pm)Confused Ape Wrote: What is atheist religion? 
Where are the snake and mushroom smilies? (April 8, 2014 at 11:09 am)Kitanetos Wrote:(April 8, 2014 at 11:04 am)whateverist Wrote: As long as you do not blaspheme against the dragons you may continue. No, you're thinking of the French. MM
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