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What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?

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What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?
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RE: What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?
April 27, 2014 at 11:41 am
There are no first century texts which so much as mention "jesus" or even xtianity.

There are no artifacts from the first century indicating xtianity existing.


We DO begin to have these things in the second century. Try to figure it out.

As Stim has said, the only source you have for that utter nonsense is your own bullshit story.
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RE: What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?
April 27, 2014 at 11:44 am
Lek.. u r reaching.. sorry..
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RE: What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?
April 27, 2014 at 3:42 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 11:41 am)Minimalist Wrote: There are no first century texts which so much as mention "jesus" or even xtianity.

There are no artifacts from the first century indicating xtianity existing.


We DO begin to have these things in the second century. Try to figure it out.

As Stim has said, the only source you have for that utter nonsense is your own bullshit story.

Now I am not so sure about that, I may be mistaken but I believe there was a historian of that era who documented something along the lines of "there is a cult going around calling themselves 'christians'"

That was all he wrote on the matter again I would have to research again the mans name.
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#84
RE: What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?
April 27, 2014 at 3:46 pm
Suetonius wrote something vaguely along those lines but he was 2d century...and he probably wrote "Chrestians" (chrestianos) anyway.
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RE: What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?
April 27, 2014 at 4:58 pm (This post was last modified: April 27, 2014 at 5:04 pm by Lek.)
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RE: What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?
April 27, 2014 at 5:04 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 4:58 pm)Lek Wrote:
(April 27, 2014 at 11:32 am)Stimbo Wrote: Source?

The Book of Acts, which you will immediately dismiss,

That's not your call to make. Launching a pre-emptive martyr defense does nothing to bolster your case; if your evidence is sound, the conclusions will follow. Your condescending attitude is noted.
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RE: What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?
April 27, 2014 at 5:08 pm (This post was last modified: April 27, 2014 at 5:19 pm by Lek.)
(April 27, 2014 at 5:04 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(April 27, 2014 at 4:58 pm)Lek Wrote: The Book of Acts, which you will immediately dismiss,

That's not your call to make. Launching a pre-emptive martyr defense does nothing to bolster your case; if your evidence is sound, the conclusions will follow. Your condescending attitude is noted.

I wasn't being condescending. I was anticipating your objection.
(April 27, 2014 at 3:46 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Suetonius wrote something vaguely along those lines but he was 2d century...and he probably wrote "Chrestians" (chrestianos) anyway.

The Jewish historian Josephus mentioned the christians in "Antiquities of the Jews" c 94. As far as your earlier comment as to "bullshit" - I don't trust you as an authority, so I'll just throw that one in the "circular file".
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RE: What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?
April 27, 2014 at 5:31 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:08 pm)Lek Wrote: I wasn't being condescending. I was anticipating your objection.

And failed. Getting your retaliation in first just makes you lose your balance.

And Josephus? Seriously?
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RE: What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?
April 27, 2014 at 5:57 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:31 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(April 27, 2014 at 5:08 pm)Lek Wrote: I wasn't being condescending. I was anticipating your objection.

And failed. Getting your retaliation in first just makes you lose your balance.

And Josephus? Seriously?

Seriously, thanks for the tip and I do respect your prowess in debate. I'm still a bit "green" at this forum stuff, but maybe someday I'll grow up to be just like you (a christian version, of course).
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RE: What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?
April 27, 2014 at 6:01 pm
I trust you will achieve your aim, though I hope you aim a little higher in your ambition.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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