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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
April 18, 2014 at 9:52 pm
(April 17, 2014 at 7:33 am)Brakeman Wrote: Imagine getting up every morning and heading along in a huge arena filled people and praising the boss all day every day without end.
Sounds like hell to me... If I wanted to do that sort of thing I would move to North Korea.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
April 27, 2014 at 9:10 pm
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(April 18, 2014 at 2:54 am)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: (April 16, 2014 at 9:38 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Why would praising an imaginary god be "admirable?"
Nonsensical questions require llogical answers and you are short of having sense yet alone common sense. Obviously the person at hand does not believe god is fictional.
You delude yourself into thinking god does not exist so I can easily tell you why do you believe in fairy tales?
Listen, you ignorant little twit, You are soo stupid you couldn't see that I was the OP and the default position is reality, not some deluded WOO Woo believer's fantasy world. God does not exist and you have never ever had any evidence that he does. Your imaginary gods came from man's fear of the unknown, and as it is so obvious that you know so little, your made up god must be of great solace to you.
(April 18, 2014 at 2:54 am)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: Quote: If I praise Spongebob Squarepants wold you admire me for it or think I've lost my mind?
No but you are reinforcing the objectivity of the fact that you probably could not pass an SAT exam.
Wow, you are so wrong there sweetie I was second highest in my High school of 300+ in my class on the SAT, and the friend of mine that beat me scored perfectly, 36/36. (Mine was 33 I think, funny that I don't remember exactly)
(April 18, 2014 at 2:54 am)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: Quote:If my neighbor imagines a magical flying turtle and starts spending her every waking hour praising the beast-god, should I be envious of her nuttery?
No but at least she has a turtle while you are left with your inability to maintain a fully functional brain. Neuroscience may be able to help you in the future
Oh that's rich! A neighbor with a imaginary flying turtle and you with your imaginary flying sky god are sane, whereas I, a non-delusional skeptic, am the one that is not-sane and needs the aid of neuroscience!
You should be ashamed to show your stupid face in the real world.. Let me guess.. you wear a burka??
(April 18, 2014 at 9:52 pm)Lek Wrote: (April 17, 2014 at 7:33 am)Brakeman Wrote: Imagine getting up every morning and heading along in a huge arena filled people and praising the boss all day every day without end.
Sounds like hell to me... If I wanted to do that sort of thing I would move to North Korea.
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My "purpose" is just that, "MY" purpose. I do not bow or work for any external WOO WOO god.
I want my life to be the most fulfilling that I can have each and every day that I face it. That is the only "purpose" I have.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
April 27, 2014 at 11:37 pm
(April 16, 2014 at 7:30 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Most theists that I've known and I think most of the theists on this board believe that God gives their lives meaning.
I usually just laugh inside, knowing that it is simply self delusion, but I just saw this cute cartoon and it struck me that if we are simply god's pets and our purpose is simply to praise him for all eternity, then it's not reassuring to have such a purpose, it's degrading. Check out this cartoon and see if you agree.
And whats wrong with purpose and meaning?
And what is "self delusion"? Telling yourself that there is no God? Isn't it better (for you) to err on the side of the majority consensus, than the alternative? Sort of like [not] bringing a water bottle with you on a long wilderness trek because you don't "think" you'll need it? You may not, but what if you do? That makes me "laugh inside"!
And another thing that makes me laugh.... "god's pets"? "our purpose is to praise him for all eternity"?
You show your lack of imagination, and sheer brain power in that statement! You are totally void of anything that even resembles spirituality.
As most here, you just throw crap at the wall to see what will stick. But all you end up with is a room with brown strips, and piles on the floor.
If God doesn't exist...go on your way! Why do all of you anti's need to keep reinforcing your disbelief amongst one another? Its totally baffling to me!
You say we have an "imaginary friend"? Well "He's" the reason you are here! And continue to come here! He gives you "purpose and meaning" in your lives too!
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
April 27, 2014 at 11:43 pm
(April 18, 2014 at 9:52 pm)Lek Wrote: (April 17, 2014 at 7:33 am)Brakeman Wrote: Imagine getting up every morning and heading along in a huge arena filled people and praising the boss all day every day without end.
Sounds like hell to me... If I wanted to do that sort of thing I would move to North Korea.
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My purpose in life.
Biologically: to make more little humans. Something I'm deliberately failing at and will continue to choose to fail at.
Personally: I've chosen to try to help as many people as I can through my career choices and actions. So far I've achieved this.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
April 28, 2014 at 3:13 am
(April 27, 2014 at 11:37 pm)ronedee Wrote: And whats wrong with purpose and meaning?
Nothing at all, that's why it's so perplexing to see theists selling their ability to have their own out to somebody else.
Quote:And what is "self delusion"? Telling yourself that there is no God? Isn't it better (for you) to err on the side of the majority consensus, than the alternative? Sort of like [not] bringing a water bottle with you on a long wilderness trek because you don't "think" you'll need it? You may not, but what if you do? That makes me "laugh inside"!
The people who weren't content to simply go with the majority consensus when they saw something different are often the revolutionaries and inventive geniuses that change the world and teach us so much. We know we have a round earth because of those who wouldn't go with the consensus that it was flat. We know about germs because of those who wouldn't accept the consensus that demons make us sick.
Go down the line: every last invention, fact about the universe, and cultural shift throughout all of human history is down to one or more people not being content with simply going with what the majority thinks. The fact that you're advocating intellectual laziness over free thought says a lot about you.
Quote:And another thing that makes me laugh.... "god's pets"? "our purpose is to praise him for all eternity"?
You show your lack of imagination, and sheer brain power in that statement! You are totally void of anything that even resembles spirituality.
I note that you didn't correct the perceived error, you just insulted us, as though an ad hominem counts as a counter argument.
Quote:As most here, you just throw crap at the wall to see what will stick. But all you end up with is a room with brown strips, and piles on the floor.
If God doesn't exist...go on your way! Why do all of you anti's need to keep reinforcing your disbelief amongst one another? Its totally baffling to me!
I know it's an alien concept, but what we're doing is called a "discussion," which is one way people might "learn." You came in here and instead of sharing our views, you opted to simply insult us and advocate for the idea of not thinking if those thoughts differ from the mainstream; I think that's a fairly stark indicator of why we might continue to discuss this stuff.
Quote:You say we have an "imaginary friend"? Well "He's" the reason you are here! And continue to come here! He gives you "purpose and meaning" in your lives too!
Nice of you to baselessly assert that. Please don't let the door hit you when you strut out of here, somehow under the illusion that you've won some great victory.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
April 28, 2014 at 6:51 am
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(April 27, 2014 at 11:37 pm)ronedee Wrote: Isn't it better (for you) to err on the side of the majority consensus, than the alternative?.. The Majority consensus is only the majority consensus because for thousands of years apostasy was met with violence. People do not magically pop into believing magical Woo Woo god stories, they are socially pressured into it from a young and impressionable age. Christians have a piss poor record in converting rational adults even without the new infusion of redly available counter theistic information.
(April 27, 2014 at 11:37 pm)ronedee Wrote: And another thing that makes me laugh.... "god's pets"? "our purpose is to praise him for all eternity"?
You show your lack of imagination, and sheer brain power in that statement! Yep, I don't try to imagine anything other than the face value of the christian religion, which, when boiled down, is merely the story of a god toying with his imperfect creation.
(April 27, 2014 at 11:37 pm)ronedee Wrote: You are totally void of anything that even resembles spirituality.
Thank you!! That is such a nice complement. I detest the belief that there is anything past reality and nature, and scoff at the ignorant people who think there is. "Spirituality is simply moaning "Woo Woo" to an individual's ignorance and fear.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
April 28, 2014 at 4:29 pm
(April 17, 2014 at 9:32 pm)professor Wrote: We are not described as servants or slaves but sons and daughters. Somehow, I don't think that your kids occasionally refer to you as "THE LORD" or "MY LORD" or anything aside from "dad." The biblical writers didn't seem to be able to decide if god was the kindly, loving father or the jealous, angry tyrant. I guess he's really more like the struggling father who tends to hit the bottle just a bit too hard and is one mean fucking drunk.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
April 28, 2014 at 5:06 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 11:37 pm)ronedee Wrote: And what is "self delusion"? Telling yourself that there is no God? Isn't it better (for you) to err on the side of the majority consensus, than the alternative? Sort of like [not] bringing a water bottle with you on a long wilderness trek because you don't "think" you'll need it? You may not, but what if you do? That makes me "laugh inside"!
Hmm. You're right. It seems that the majority of humans on the planet believe in one deity or another. Maybe I'd better be safe instead of sorry so I'll opt for two deities - The Goddess and God of Wicca.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
April 28, 2014 at 5:39 pm
(April 28, 2014 at 4:29 pm)Tonus Wrote: (April 17, 2014 at 9:32 pm)professor Wrote: We are not described as servants or slaves but sons and daughters. Somehow, I don't think that your kids occasionally refer to you as "THE LORD" or "MY LORD" or anything aside from "dad." The biblical writers didn't seem to be able to decide if god was the kindly, loving father or the jealous, angry tyrant. I guess he's really more like the struggling father who tends to hit the bottle just a bit too hard and is one mean fucking drunk.
He probably does have his kids refer to him as "King of Kings" and "Lord of Lords!" And if they touch his special things after being told not to by someone else (E.G. Uzzah, 2 Samuel 6:1-7), he'll Smite them and torture them forever in his fiery dungen.. Yeah.. just like any ol' dad would.
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RE: Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
April 30, 2014 at 11:43 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 9:10 pm)Brakeman Wrote: (April 18, 2014 at 2:54 am)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: Nonsensical questions require llogical answers and you are short of having sense yet alone common sense. Obviously the person at hand does not believe god is fictional.
You delude yourself into thinking god does not exist so I can easily tell you why do you believe in fairy tales?
Listen, you ignorant little twit, You are soo stupid you couldn't see that I was the OP and the default position is reality, not some deluded WOO Woo believer's fantasy world. God does not exist and you have never ever had any evidence that he does. Your imaginary gods came from man's fear of the unknown, and as it is so obvious that you know so little, your made up god must be of great solace to you.
(April 18, 2014 at 2:54 am)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: No but you are reinforcing the objectivity of the fact that you probably could not pass an SAT exam.
Wow, you are so wrong there sweetie I was second highest in my High school of 300+ in my class on the SAT, and the friend of mine that beat me scored perfectly, 36/36. (Mine was 33 I think, funny that I don't remember exactly)
(April 18, 2014 at 2:54 am)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: No but at least she has a turtle while you are left with your inability to maintain a fully functional brain. Neuroscience may be able to help you in the future
Oh that's rich! A neighbor with a imaginary flying turtle and you with your imaginary flying sky god are sane, whereas I, a non-delusional skeptic, am the one that is not-sane and needs the aid of neuroscience!
You should be ashamed to show your stupid face in the real world.. Let me guess.. you wear a burka??
(April 18, 2014 at 9:52 pm)Lek Wrote: What's your purpose in life and are you achieving it?
My "purpose" is just that, "MY" purpose. I do not bow or work for any external WOO WOO god.
I want my life to be the most fulfilling that I can have each and every day that I face it. That is the only "purpose" I have.
Thanks for the joke kiddo . I like how you pretend to be mentally unstable to mock those that are mentally unstable.
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