The Noahs ark and why it didn't happen

[Anomalocaris]

Sorry - the claim of a great flood - could only be a local event - not a worldwide one

Don't tell the people whom fundamentalists believe to have known god that the world is in fact a tad bigger than the distance to the furtherst cousin they fucked.

[ThomM]

Sorry - the claim of a great flood - could only be a local event - not a worldwide one

Don't tell the people whom fundamentalists believe to have known god that the world is in fact a tad bigger than the distance to the furtherst cousin they fucked.

The problem is that people - many people - were brought up being told an unquestionable statement - that the bible is the Inerrant word of a god
So - since everything in the bible is "true" then it self proofs.

But we KNow today the statement is false - the entire bible was written by humans - and clearly shows the superstitions and beliefs of ancient cave dwellers. There are errors - contradictions - impossibilities - and nonsense as well. So - a LOGICAL person looks at the bible and looks for supporting proof of the statements in it - and finding none =- or finding things that conflict with the bible - accept the bible to be MYTH.

[Lemonvariable72]

I personally think the whole flood tale was originally intended as a twisted morality tale.

[Rampant.A.I.]

I personally think the whole flood tale was originally intended as a twisted morality tale.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_flood_myth

[hobie]

Why would God have to send a Flood to wipe out all mankind? Couldn't he just will them out of existence?

[Fidel_Castronaut]

I thought the biblical flood story itself was already the very nadir of human ignorance and wishful thinking. But I was wrong. Every christain can sink even lower trying to defend it.

I just don't get it.

I don't understand how there are real, human beings that actually seek to defend such an obviously un-true story. Call it allegory, metaphor, whatever.

But an actual event?

Shit, I can only conclude that people who defend it aren't real, as per the general rule of eliminating all possibilities that aren't true.

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13) I can't quite remember how many people were on board the ark but do you know when the pyramids were supposedly built? Wasn't it something like a few hundred years after the flood. Are you telling me that Noah's family multiplied so fast that they managed to create hundreds of thousands of people in a few hundred years? Enough jews to make the pyramids?

This is actually one of my favourite arguments against the ark story.

The fine folks over at Talk Origins determined that, if we take 2350 BCE as the date of the flood, that meant that:

1. They pyramids were constructed by 13 people.

2. When Moses lead the 600 000 Children of Israel on the Exodus, the world population was 736 people.

3. In 481 BCE, when Xerxes the Great assembled an army of more than 2.5 million soldiers, the world's population was a little less than 87 000.

Boru

Yeah, but Jesus, Brian. Jesus.

Can't explain that.

[Anomalocaris]

Don't tell the people whom fundamentalists believe to have known god that the world is in fact a tad bigger than the distance to the furtherst cousin they fucked.

The problem is that people - many people - were brought up being told an unquestionable statement - that the bible is the Inerrant word of a god
So - since everything in the bible is "true" then it self proofs.

But we KNow today the statement is false - the entire bible was written by humans - and clearly shows the superstitions and beliefs of ancient cave dwellers. There are errors - contradictions - impossibilities - and nonsense as well. So - a LOGICAL person looks at the bible and looks for supporting proof of the statements in it - and finding none =- or finding things that conflict with the bible - accept the bible to be MYTH.

Even if the bible was written by god there is no evidence whatsoever he didn't lie through his divine ass.

[Tonus]

Why would God have to send a Flood to wipe out all mankind? Couldn't he just will them out of existence?

They didn't want their god to come off as a massive douchebag.

[Anomalocaris]

Why would God have to send a Flood to wipe out all mankind? Couldn't he just will them out of existence?

They didn't want their god to come off as a massive douchebag.

No, but they don't mind him coming off as a soaking wet douchebag.

[Hoopington]

I said this on the other thread, it wasn't 2 of each animal, it was 2 of each "unclean" animal. Of the "clean" animals, 7 of each (possibly 14 depending on your interpretation) were marched onto Noah's wooden Ark.

I read earlier in this thread that a wooden vessel would leak at that size. That isn't quite true, an Ark of the size needed would simply collapse in on itself, long before it was ever finished.